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Title: Green cut vase
Post by: Ross4130 on August 04, 2016, 04:46:30 PM
Stands about 20cm tall and has a polished pontil. French?
And ideas of origin or age would be great
Title: Re: Green cut vase
Post by: keith on August 04, 2016, 06:27:12 PM
Reminds me of some of the pieces produced by Richardsons and Stevens & Williams in the 1930s, could be a starting place for more research ?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Green cut vase
Post by: Ross4130 on August 05, 2016, 05:16:14 PM
could it be val st lambert? Would it be acid etched if this was the case?
Title: Re: Green cut vase
Post by: keith on August 05, 2016, 06:50:12 PM
Only seen two pieces of Val St Lambert and both of those were marked, not that that means much I've quite a few pieces of S&W's none of which are marked  ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Green cut vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 05, 2016, 07:09:33 PM
My Val St Lambert isn't marked... I must admit that crossed my mind too. We need Annetique!
Title: Re: Green cut vase
Post by: Anne Tique on August 05, 2016, 08:49:23 PM
A lot of VSL pieces aren't signed but this is not one of them.
Title: Re: Green cut vase
Post by: Ivo on August 06, 2016, 07:01:22 AM
Most makers of cut-to-clear glass have subcontracted to Ajka Üveggyar and I have seen things very similar to this at Rogaška in Slovenia - also produced by Ajka.
Title: Re: Green cut vase
Post by: keith on August 06, 2016, 12:24:50 PM
These are the  pieces that made me think it may have been S&W's.... but the rim finish is different so ?
Title: Re: Green cut vase
Post by: flying free on August 06, 2016, 03:15:05 PM
Ross how is the rim/lip of the vase finished?
Keith there is a blue footed vase in the CH British glass book page 144.   Again similar or same pattern as your red, but I can see the similarities in the cuttings design between Ross's green vase and the SW pieces.
However, no cutting on the rim and couldn't see a shape match in the CH book. 
Ivo, would Ajka be doing polished pontil marks do you know?  just in case,as it might lean the searching more to S&W if they don't.
Also knowing how the rim is finished as I think the rims on the S&W pieces which are aren't (edited )notched, are firepolished.

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Title: Re: Green cut vase
Post by: Ross4130 on August 06, 2016, 03:41:56 PM
Does this help?
Title: Re: Green cut vase
Post by: Ivo on August 06, 2016, 08:26:35 PM
If cutting and polishing is your business you do not leave the bottom unfinished, so yes.
Title: Re: Green cut vase
Post by: flying free on August 06, 2016, 09:45:38 PM
Hi Ivo
thanks :) I understand.  I was just more thinking about whether it might have been blown from the top and then cut (maybe then tending to think not English) rather than the other way where S&W have polished pontil marks and firepolished rims I think (in the book on the pieces that don't have notched rims but are otherwise cut to clear, they seem to have firepolished rims as far as I can see).

Nonetheless, it appears the owners vase has a cut and polished and bevelled rim. So although the pattern is very similar to an S&W pattern perhaps thoughts would lean towards another maker rather than an English maker, i.e.Ajka as a you said.

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Title: Re: Green cut vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 07, 2016, 03:04:35 PM
I'm not sure that train of thought could apply here, as the rim is cut to shape and would be nigh on impossible to fire polish wherever it was made
Title: Re: Green cut vase
Post by: flying free on August 07, 2016, 08:47:54 PM
yes you're right :)

I did have a fairly good look at the books and couldn't see a similar shaped rim on anything under S & W though (even clear glass items from different periods).
But that pattern is very similar if slightly 're-designed'.
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