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Title: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: Ayesha1938 on September 12, 2016, 01:26:28 AM
I found a few Monart vases on the Ysart Glass website that were similar in shape and design to the one in the photograph. This one has a somewhat smooth pontil mark, with initials mark that's difficult to decifer.

Would appreciate any information that may help to identify glass company that made vase. 9" H x 7" at widest point.

Carole
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 12, 2016, 06:09:28 AM
We need a base shot please and one of the rim would be good too
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 12, 2016, 05:35:43 PM
It does look a bit Caithnessy, it would have a flat polished rim if it is. It's hard to tell with the vegetation there.  ;)
Hello Carole and welcome.  :)
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: Paul S. on September 12, 2016, 07:46:23 PM
not that I've a clue really, but if it was Caithness, then just possibly it has some colourway similarities to Colin Terris' Cadenza range (from the 1980s), perhaps ?? :)

I think Carole's picture is good  -  a lot better than some of the busy backgrounds we see.
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: Ayesha1938 on September 12, 2016, 08:09:17 PM
More photos....

Thanks for all responses.

Carole
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: Ayesha1938 on September 12, 2016, 08:12:03 PM
Hard to tell what the logo mark on this one is, but it looks like CG. Tried to get it raised a bit in the photo.
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: nigelbenson on September 12, 2016, 08:56:55 PM
Hello Carole and Welcome to the GMB,

I am certain that it is not Monart, Vasart or Strathearn, and I don't believe it is Caithness either.

The thinkness of the glass; the pink inner, the colouring and the pontil finish suggest art glass by an individual make - so maybe closer to home in the USA?

Kind wishes, Nigel
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: Ayesha1938 on September 13, 2016, 02:19:24 AM
Thanks for taking the time to review the pics and for your suggestion to research art glass made in the United States. Will do.

Best,

Carole

Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 13, 2016, 05:04:21 PM
It looks like a heat finished rim and the base is completely wrong for Caithness, so no joy there.
I'd agree with Nigel - you should be looking more for a studio artist, closer to home.
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: Ayesha1938 on September 13, 2016, 06:23:25 PM
Thanks for your response. Wanted to share further thoughts about this vase. Went back to my initial search online. I found an abundance of information at these sites. Also attached some individual pics.
[Mod: Pics removed in line with Board guidelines on use of copyright material (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,24434.0.html) - The pics were for shapes DI, GL, JA and RH (Variant) for which the first three are found in: http://www.ysartglass.com/Moncat/ShapeVase01.htm and the last in: http://www.ysartglass.com/Moncat/Page09vary.htm]

http://www.ysartglass.com/index.htm,
http://www.ysartglass.com/Vascat/VasV001.htm,
vases by shape page: http://www.ysartglass.com/Moncat/ShapeVase01.htm

The thickness of the walls of the vases are very similar to mine, the coloring inside varies and several have a greyish pinkish purple hue.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Then I'm back online to research further in USA, etc.

Again, thanks for the discussion. Very enlightening.

Best,

Carole
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: nigelbenson on September 13, 2016, 07:33:41 PM
Hello Carole,

If you were to look at the base of each of the Monart pieces that you have picked from Frank's site, you would see that none matched your vase.

There are indeed pieces of Monart with a pink inner, however they are so rare and well known as to be discounted.

The way the colour is laid into the metal (glass) is not consistent with any piece that I've ever seen.

The sheen of the glass, suggests the quality of the glass casing is higher than that of Monart.

Nigel
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: Ayesha1938 on September 13, 2016, 09:39:42 PM
Thanks very much for the clarification. Consider all information will be helpful in further research on other glasses. Things to note, beyond shape, color, etc.

"The sheen of the glass, suggests the quality of the glass casing is higher than that of Monart." Are you referring to the sheen on my vase?

Again, thanks.

Carole
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: KevinH on September 14, 2016, 12:28:30 AM
Hi Carole,

I have removed the Ysartglass site pics from Reply #9 and added a "Mod note" with a link to the Board Guidelines on use of copyright material. I have also added a note on the referenced pics and the url.
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: Ayesha1938 on September 14, 2016, 03:27:19 AM
Thanks for the update. Will keep all in mind in future posts.

Carole
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 14, 2016, 11:29:02 AM
You'll soon get used to us.  :)
We all started off not knowing anything ourselves.
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: nigelbenson on September 14, 2016, 08:11:14 PM
The sheen on your vase Carole  ;)

Nigel
Title: Re: Identifying vase - Scottish Glass? Monart? Caithness?
Post by: Ayesha1938 on September 17, 2016, 01:59:22 AM
Thanks much for the clarification.

Regards,

Carole