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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: chriss on October 19, 2016, 07:09:25 AM
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Hi I have been on iowstudio glass collections and seen this is an aurene decor and in gold (unless it's multi as there's different colours of blue etc?) I have owned Aurene items before and believe it's the same decor, though the foot/stem is a different coloured vivid clear blue colour to the darker blue in the bowl/cup.
http://iowstudioglass.wikidot.com/aurene
There are goblets similar(ish to me anyway) in style to this piece on that website and it says they were believed to all be made by Micheal Harris and date from mid 1970's.
There's plenty of age related wear to the base of this piece and no makers marks or labels. . The pale gold colours within the decoration are Iridescent.
I'm not sure if it's a large goblet or a footed pedestal bowl as it stands 6" tall and is 5" wide diagonally across the upper lip.
Could anyone tell me if this is gold or mixed colour variation please? Is it a goblet or a footed bowl please and is there any way to tell who the maker at Isle of Wight was please?
Many thanks
Chriss
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I have had a couple of the goblets but that is really big so perhaps it is a footed bowl. Definitely Isle of Wight Studio Glass though.
Like the paperweights and small bullet bowls the goblets do not conform to the standard colour ranges but in this case Aurene seems fair enough.
John
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It certainly looks like an early Aurene goblet from IoWSG. :)
Can I ask, is the photo "squished" or is this really the shape? I am assuming it is right, because of the dimensions you give, so I'm going to carry on and say That I suspect this is an early, experimental piece, made before Aurene was fully developed into an official range.
I have a few pieces of early experimental strapped "Aurene", produced using some enamels that the Harris family brought back from Malta, and so have the Mdina teal blue in them, rather than the more cobalt blue used at IoWSG.
You say there are different shades of blue in this?
If there is the Mdina teal, that would indicate use of enamels brought back from Malta.
The very wide shape is not standard at all.
I do think this is IoWSG, and an early, experimental Aurene-style.
I am not able to comment of who might have made it, it's possible it was Michael Harris, but it doesn't scream MH at me. Some of his work doesn't. ;D
I have a feeling that the definition of whether something is gold or blue Aurene, depends on which colour is on top, but I also think that most of us just call all of it Aurene.
(John and I were replying at the same time. :))
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Thanks for your replies, much appreciated. A top view of this glass shows more clearly why I thought it's aurene (or early aurene experimental as its been suggested) I think, and the iow wiki dot website was where I got the gold or mixed idea as they say blue to the base and the ochre to the top portion, but as there's the teal stem and Iridescent gold swirls that's why I suggested mixed colour? It makes sense that they may have made it using Mdina materials, I've never seen that colour in iow glass (which doesn't mean a lot) but have seen loads in Mdina glass (I collected it years ago and still have some floating round ) the blue within the bowl is far darker than the stem and is the blue I've seen before in Aurene 😀 The images haven't been squashed in any way I don't think (not intentiobally anyway). The photos were taken using a square frame on an iPad and the only editing was to shrink the image to fit on here, I've checked and apart from the angle of the foot looking a bit lop sided due to the angle of the photo (which it's not) then proportionately it looks to me to be a true reflection of the profile :) the measurements I initially gave are slightly wrong sorry (that's what you get when asking a teenager for their help .... ) it stands 5 and 3/4" tall, 2 and 3/4" of that is the clear teal blue stem. The upper rim is also 5 and 1/4" wide, it's quite heavy, but I've only got suitcase scales which make it 0.58 kilo but it's prob a bit heavier than that. Thanks for your help, and if you need any more images, let me know please? 😀
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Here's an exact profile of this glass or as near as I can do anyway :) thanks again for your help and info 😀
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When compared with the profiles of these two, it looks less like a goblet and more like a bowl or perhaps even a chalice.
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John and I are replying at the same time again :)- yes, this is a decidedly unusual shape, not a normal (and scarce!) Aurene goblet, but a proper bit of something early and experimental.
I might perhaps describe it as a small chalice rather than a footed bowl. :)
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Hi and thanks for the replies and photo, much appreciated 😀 In the photo shown by glassobsessed, the goblet on the left of the pair looks to me like it's virtually the same types of glass combination, decor and style, but this chalice is just different proportions and size (with you both suggesting Chalice as a possibility, then I'm going with that ;D )
I'm tempted to take it to the glass fair next month as there were 2 IOW stands there last time? 😀
Thanks for your help again
Chriss
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Hang on a minute. I see comet-like trails of silver deposit around it, on the surface. Michael Harris could do that, and very early on at IoWSG, he was about the only person who could attempt anything large.
It could well be his work after all.
At Mdina, Vicente Boffo and Joseph Said (eventually) managed to produce comet-like trails, but there wasn't anybody else, as far as I know, at IoWSG who could.
;D
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thank you ;D ;D ;D
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I couldn't state categorically that it was made by Michael Harris, and could not claim that it was if I were selling it, but personally I'd becomfortable believing that it is, if it was mine. 8) 8) 8)
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Hi thanks for the new reply 😀 Admittedly, my knowledge is non existent about which glass master has/had what technical ability at Mdina or IOWSG, but I'm still very pleased that technically, this is good enough to have possibly been made by Micheal Harris or made by someone whose skills in these particular techniques possibly matched his 😃😃😃
I'm taking this to the 2 IOW glass stands or the Mdina/IOWSG stands that are at the glass fair if I can go. 😀 Will let you know the outcome unless someone else from IOWSG happens to see this post, I think seeing it will make so much difference, and although I've tried my best with the photos, they are a long way from perfect.
Thank you both so much for your help 😀
Chriss
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I'm sure Ron Wheeler (Artiusglass) will be interested to see it.
And Anton, of the IoWSG Museum. :)
I won't be there.
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Thanks for the names, I will show them and see what they say then 😃 👍
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If one ignores the "wings" on the stem the shape seems very similar to my Mdina goblet.
Ross
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Hi I thought that I would do an update on this piece as I went to the glass fair to talk to IoWSG museum or the other stall the studio had in spring and Artius glass .... neither were there ... ;D I showed it to a number of dealers who had a collections of IOWSG on their stands, who all thought it was aurene or blue aurene, a number said they thought it was experimental, and this was a rare and early piece from the 70's and most said it was a lovely item, and shame it wasn't signed. I also showed it to Jonathan Harris who confirmed it as an early aurene chalice with every possibility that his dad made it, he confirmed his dad often never signed things as his best work would be made tomorrow ;D He also commented that he remembered his mum used to put green florist oasis in it for flower arrangements ;D
Thanks for all your help
:)
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I'm very pleased to hear Jonathon agrees with us; and not at all surprised to hear about Elizabeth putting flowers and oasis in them. ;)
(I'll get my coat...)