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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: nansvase on November 13, 2016, 02:03:28 PM

Title: Amber vase ID please - has 7 lenses that look throught to etched picture
Post by: nansvase on November 13, 2016, 02:03:28 PM
Please can anyone tell me anything about this vase? I can't find any images of anything like this on google.

Hopefully the photos will attach and show that it has an etched picture of a horse and rider one side and opposite 7 lenses in a circle which when looked through show the etching as 7 little images.

It came from my grandmother so could possibly be 1920s or later.
It has no markings.
It is about 19cm tall and the rim diameter is about 9.5cm.
It is quite heavy.
Unfortunately it has been dropped and been glued back together at some point.

Thank-you in anticipation of any help.

Title: Re: Amber vase ID please - has 7 lenses that look throught to etched picture
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 13, 2016, 04:31:22 PM
My guess would be Bohemian and late 1800s if not earlier
Title: Re: Amber vase ID please - has 7 lenses that look throught to etched picture
Post by: flying free on November 26, 2016, 10:14:06 PM
I think there is a possibility that this could be a lot earlier, perhaps 1840s.
I just couldn't see the medallion engraving clearly and haven't found anything like the way the horse is engraved hence not posting.

Is it possible for you to post a clearer photograph of the engraved medallion please?
perhaps putting a sheet of plain black paper inside would show up the picture clearly.
It might help with dating and also outside chance of working out who might have engraved it.

Many thanks
m
Title: Re: Amber vase ID please - has 7 lenses that look throught to etched picture
Post by: Ekimp on September 25, 2020, 10:34:20 PM
Hi, I hope this hasn’t been thrown away because of the crack! I think the depiction of the horse was taken from Carle Verne’s lithograph “Cheval Persan”. This shows a rearing riderless horse being led by a Persian - the position of the horse and its limbs looks the same except small differences in the angles of the forelimbs and the position of the head is slightly different.  The rider would have been added by the glass artist. The lithograph and examples of engraved copies on similar glass are shown on page 34 of the article by Walter Spiegl on Dominik Biemann here: http://www.glas-forschung.info/pageone/pdf/DB_01.pdf  . I’m not suggesting it is by Dominik Biemann, shame there aren’t some clearer photos.

Talking about the copying lithographs in engraved glass, the text (via google translate) says “The engraver only had to transfer it to the other medium in miniature. He differed from his professional colleagues only in how skilfully he did it, how he changed the template or added his own ingredients”.