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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Germany => Topic started by: David E on November 26, 2016, 04:54:53 PM
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Can anyone help here? These dishes are iridised and feature a smooth polished pontil with the word 'Allemagne' acid-etched there. This, of course, is 'German' but in French, IYSWIM! My limited experience with WMF says no, and the iridescence is also very lightly crazed giving it a slightly rough feel.
So is it a German make that was marked in France, or a copy, or what? Any help much appreciated.
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How about Poschinger they produced some of this Iridescent stretch type of glass?
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Thanks Greg, although Poschinger does appear to be the silky smooth iridised glass. However, I did read somewhere that some iridescence doesn't wear well and it almost looks like the surface (not the glass) is crizzled - whether that's by accident of design I can't really tell.
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I‘m a bit confused. If I have a German company, why should I print allemagne on it. Made in Germany okay that‘s normal, but Alemagne, that’s French. Made in Germany you will understand in France as well....
Could it be, that the model is called Alemagne and it’s made in France?
If your are looking for still iridescent glass making company in Germany you end at Poschinger, Josca, and Eisch. But I think the word allemagne leads you wrong
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It was probably made for or sold in France. Tchécoslovaquie is commonly found on Czech glass sold in France
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Post war bought in many restrictions on exported goods from Germany. Items imported into Britain had to be marked Made in Germany, so perhaps the same applied in France.
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I just had anohter look on it, sure that it is allemagne? I read allemangns. evven more confusing
Monika
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Allemagne is the French word for 'Germany'. That is what is acid-etched to the base - look more closely.
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Fritz Heckert iridescent glass has this very faint crackle effect in it.
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Thanks M. Had a look, but I can't really see any Fritz Heckert (or Josephinenhütte) glass with this finish or shape - perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places!
Another thought: presumably it was post-World War I, but were they acid-etching marks to its exported glass? I always think of this as a measure bought in after WWII, when the company had already closed down.
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I thought the marks were more likely to be 1930s or so to be honest and I think Heckert was closed by then. However they certainly did a lovely iridescent finish with a light minute crackle to it and given that, I thought I might be wrong about the marks dates. It might be worth finding out when France demanded export marks on glass/items?
The shape and colours make me think of Theresienthal for some reason but I can't tell you why. I always associate Theresienthal with more 'feminine' glass designs and colours for some reason, less 'sturdy' shapes and designs, more airy.
It's hard to see your photographs and the detail of the iridescence clearly . Can you add a photo in different light? They both look quite 'bright and modern' in those pics. Are the colours that new looking?
I think Poschinger was also a good shout as a possible.