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Title: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: ahmedalwan70 on December 08, 2016, 10:14:36 PM
Hi everyone,
I have recently acquired this glass vase, unsigned, purple color with internal layer of controlled bubbles measures 7''.

Any information about the origin and date of manufacture

Thanks in Advance
Title: Re: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: KevinH on December 08, 2016, 11:36:11 PM
Hi, I have split out your other vase into its own thread as different ID requests in one thread can get confusing. Hope somebody can help with info soon.
Title: Re: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: ahmedalwan70 on December 08, 2016, 11:52:52 PM
Many thanks KevinH
Title: Re: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: Anne Tique on December 09, 2016, 01:28:40 AM
Hello, i'd like to ask you if you could confirm that your vase is purple/pink and not cased?
If it is just the one colour, without casing, it's very likely to be designed by Charles Graffart for Val St Lambert. For some reason unknown to me, these series from the 40ies are rarely signed.
Title: Re: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: ahmedalwan70 on December 09, 2016, 02:09:09 AM
Thanks Anne,
I believe it's a one color glass and not cased, that's what I can see, not 100% sure though!
Title: Re: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: Anne Tique on December 09, 2016, 09:27:05 AM
It's difficult to make out the colour on your photo, but could you confirm it's similar to these pieces here? Usually they're coloured throughout, cased versions do exist but I've never seen one personally before.

I haven't got any documentation with me at the moment, as I'm away for work, but I'm pretty convinced it's VSL. If I remember well, it's illustrated in Capppa's book, i'll have a look in some other books once I'm back.  They only did controlled bubble glass in this pink colour, in clear crystal and a mint green colour.

WMF did a similar shaped vase, 'Perlora' series, but the bubbles aren't always as good and they used different and, imo, odd colours.
Title: Re: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: ahmedalwan70 on December 09, 2016, 11:39:12 AM
Thanks Anne for the information. Yes, they're pretty much the same, I'll try to post more photos may be later today!

Title: Re: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: ahmedalwan70 on December 09, 2016, 12:22:32 PM
I've seen similar pieces made by Gunnel Nyman! correct me if I'm wrong!
Title: Re: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: Paul S. on December 09, 2016, 01:35:05 PM
hi  -  am sure we shouldn't need to correct you if your sources contain accurate and reliable attribution/provenance  -  but your wording does suggest that you aren't entirely sure or happy with your suggestion of Nyman. :)              Nyman was a freelance designer for several Finnish factories in the 1930s and 1940s , and the lady was known for her use of controlled bubbled decoration in both art glass and utility designs, but I think we would need some specific reference source to feel there was some genuine pointer that this was the work of Nyman.

Anne is very reliable in her suggestions, usually, so perhaps we should wait until she returns from work ;D
Title: Re: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: ahmedalwan70 on December 09, 2016, 02:43:26 PM
Many Thanks Paul,
I totally agree with you, But I think all Nyman similar examples were signed, that's why I'm leaning towards Anne's suggestion.

Here are some additional photos that i managed to take today.

Regards
Title: Re: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: Anne Tique on December 09, 2016, 09:24:48 PM
perhaps we should wait until she returns from work ;D

 :D Sorry, I meant away abroad for work, back on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: Paul S. on December 09, 2016, 10:48:40 PM
you're a broad you say Anne   -  thought you were a nicer girl than that. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: Anne Tique on December 15, 2016, 09:55:36 AM
 ;D Paul ... :-*

Sorry for the late reply, but I had a little accident here ... lost my balance when I wanted to pick up my bag ( and no, I was not under influence), tablet fell out on the floor and my foot landed on top of my tablet ... even though I'm not heavy, screens are not supporting this kind of weight and it now has a beautiful x-mas star all over the screen and it's good for the bin. Thank God I managed to save my catalogues and documents. So it's back to the older tablet which reminded me straight away why I had it replaced ... if it carries on like this, it will end up the same because I'm losing my patience here  ::)

Unfortunately the images are in black and white, but I'm sure you've come across the other colours in your search. I feel the need to add that the text has been translated from French and I think the wording ' palpitations' should be read as freeform movements .... it makes it sound a bit pervy  :-[ having said that, I'm close to having palpitations myself trying to get this old tablet to do what I'm asking it to!  >:(

It also sounds as VSL invented the controlled bubble technique, but as you know, this was already done much earlier by other artists.
Title: Re: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: Paul S. on December 15, 2016, 12:28:33 PM
certainly looks to be a very good match in terms of shape etc., and would agree that the word sensual probably not really applicable here.     You may be correct with 'freeform' Anne, but I'd always imagined that word being used to describe shapes lacking recognizable geometric outline  -  something akin to free-formed dishes - the most well known being Per Lutken's designs for Holmegaard.                        If you want sensual you should look at some of the Galle, Loetz or Daum work from the nouveau period, as you will of course know well - although that's not to say that the designs being discussed here aren't physically pleasing or gratifying to the senses - just maybe not quite what most folk think of as sensual.

It's a very good question as to who might have been the first to produce controlled bubbled glass, and aside from the outside chance it may have been the Romans, my thoughts are maybe Murano or one of the Scandinavian houses perhaps.        It could be an interesting thread to run here - perhaps other people will offer their thoughts on the subject.
However, your comment that  "this was already done much earlier by other artists.",  suggests that you are one step ahead of us, and probably already know the answer ;)

P.S.    sorry to hear of your unstable adventure  -  what was it - those six inch heels again.  :-*
Title: Re: Any information about my controlled bubble vase
Post by: KevinH on December 15, 2016, 10:45:46 PM
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It's a very good question as to who might have been the first to produce controlled bubbled glass, and aside from the outside chance it may have been the Romans, my thoughts are maybe Murano or one of the Scandinavian houses perhaps.        It could be an interesting thread to run here - perhaps other people will offer their thoughts on the subject.

A thread (Nov 30, 2009) on the subject already exists:
Who invented introducing controlled bubbles in glass and when ? Please ! (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,30417.msg164673.html#msg164673)