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Title: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: Scott13 on December 15, 2016, 05:55:32 PM

Any help in providing an identity greatly appreciated  :)

The enamel has been painted ( and fused ) onto the surface of the glass - which under magnification has a fine orange peel appearance. There's also a hint of iridescence.

It has a rough pontil mark.

It looks as though it's been deliberately made to look cloudy.

Height about 17cm

Thanks for looking

Scott
Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: flying free on December 15, 2016, 06:06:27 PM
please could you post a photograph 600x400 pixels and clear, of the base?

The base shot is very important and can be a factor in getting an identification.

thanks
m
Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: Scott13 on December 15, 2016, 06:40:26 PM
Hi, best I can do-hope it helps.
Scott
Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: Scott13 on December 15, 2016, 06:42:03 PM
And another !
Scott
Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: Anne E.B. on December 15, 2016, 07:09:18 PM
It looks very similar to my William Walker 'Chinese' range vase.
Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: Scott13 on December 15, 2016, 08:58:26 PM

Hi, many thanks for your help - it does look very like one of William Walker's pieces - possibly from the 80s ?

Scott





Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: Scott13 on December 19, 2016, 06:56:54 AM

Hi, posting another pic as I really don't think my first one does it justice - hope you don't mind  ;)
Its abstract design really is something - quite captivating- but of course I could be biased !

Scott

Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: flying free on December 19, 2016, 11:36:25 AM
This is a signed William Walker bowl with a ruffle rim.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stunning-And-Rare-William-Walker-Art-Glass-Bowl-White-Dainty-Signed-Dated-1987-/182346328828?nma=true&si=7AjpgCVmXQ4OC5u7ay2ghVuBNNc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

It could be remarkably similar to your vase however
the lighting on your photograph makes it very hard to see if it is the same kind of trailing design and the same opalescent effect.

m

Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: Scott13 on December 19, 2016, 12:58:21 PM

Hi m, had a look at your bowl - not sure about my vase now ???

My vase's 'white' appears to be quite ' feathery ' and the design trailing rests very much on the surface of the glass.

With a bit of luck the attached pics will help. :)

Thanks

Scott



Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: Scott13 on December 20, 2016, 08:46:31 AM

Hi, after having looked at your bowl for the umpteenth time I would say the finer more tangled bits of trailing could well have been done by the same hand - a bit like comparing handwriting styles I suppose.
Certainly the rim and pontil marks look similar - not sure about the opalescence though.

Not sure where this takes me - back to William Walker I hope  :)

Scott
Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: flying free on December 20, 2016, 02:01:00 PM
I don't know if WW pieces had the decoration on the surface of the pieces.

Stuart Strathearn did - it reminds me of that a little as well.

m
Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: Scott13 on December 21, 2016, 08:05:33 AM

Hi, I'll have a look at Stuart Strathearn.

The only other name that crossed my mind was Norman Stuart Clarke; but only because of his fairly frequent use of black trailing.............

Yet another anon to my collection ?   :-\

Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: glassobsessed on December 21, 2016, 12:03:11 PM
Another WW vase to compare with here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,39500.msg358799.html#msg358799

Have a really careful look for a signature, they be very hard to spot.

John
Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: Scott13 on December 21, 2016, 06:16:23 PM

Hi John, thanks for sending the link.

Haven't been able to find any monogram, signature on my vase - just the broken off pontil mark !

I can see what could be a W ( could be my imagination of course ) within the pontil mark of  Dingledodger's piece ?

I've attached the nearest I can get to a close-up of my vase's base - I could be missing something   8)

Scott
Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: flying free on December 22, 2016, 02:00:29 AM
John, op's vase is surface decorated though.  The colour and design is 'on' the glass surface rather than an integral part of the glass.
I've not seen a WW vase like that admittedly on fairly cursory net surfing though.
m
Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: glassobsessed on December 22, 2016, 09:26:04 PM
It is always harder going by photos only, having an item in your hands can really help provide those subtle clues. How much the canes and chips used to form the decoration stand proud will depend on how they were further heated and worked, the more marvering and heat the smoother the end result.

I had the opportunity to handle Ben's WW handkerchief vase in that link, beautifully made, very thinly blown and so 'fluid'. The signature was not on the foot but around the base of the vase where the foot was attached.
Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: flying free on December 22, 2016, 10:26:00 PM
yes it is difficult ... perhaps I'm not seeing them 'right' but Ben's fluted vase also looks as though it's opalescent in appearance i.e. the colour appears to be the metal, rather than there being bits of glass surface fused on.
Or... are there actually  bits of white glass in the metal picked up from the marver, rather than it being a colour from the pot or produced on cooling as it were?

m
Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: glassobsessed on December 23, 2016, 09:52:31 AM
That I don't know m, I would assume a clear gather rolled in coloured powder to give the colour rather than there having been a pot of that pale pinky mauve. Might have to ask Mr Walker himself to be able to answer that question definitively.
Title: Re: Streaky enamelled vase
Post by: Scott13 on December 23, 2016, 01:38:33 PM

Hi, two dimensional images certainly have their shortcomings.

Anyway here are some random observations which might help to flesh out my original description  :)

The glass has been thinly blown ( like Ben's piece it's quite delicate) - if tapped it emits a tinny note.

There are a few seeds and the odd elongated bubble in the area just below the rim. There's also an elongated open bubble on the inside surface.
There are a number of striations in the glass - presumably what you'd expect in something that's been hand blown.

I don't think it's opalescent.
I think the white has probably been picked up on the marver.
Where the white ( which has a feathery look  ::) ) has been applied the surface of the glass is slightly rough - hardly discernible.

The pink looks very like the pink found on IOWSG  Pink & blue swirls ( I'm not suggesting any connection- just an observation re the colour ! )

The decoration has definitely been applied to the surface - it hasn't been cased.
If you run your finger over the surface you can feel that it's raised.
The inside is perfectly smooth.

Hope this might help  :)

Scott