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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: flying free on January 26, 2017, 09:23:38 PM
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http://www.thepotteries.org/industry/glass_works/ware.htm
This example is shown as one of their first attempts at encasing an item in a paperweight apparently.
It appears to be clear glass enclosing a white flower with about seven green leaves around it.
No date on it.
The other two red over clear glass items were given as a wedding present in 1864.
m
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Interesting - but I would love to know whether there is any evidence whatsoever that this paperweight was made in Stoke-on-Trent. It looks to me very like a Clichy paperweight. I suspect this is a case of garbled history.
Alan
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Hmm. I agree in general terms with Alan.
Certainly of the type known from Clichy in the so called "classic period" and perhaps even from the USA. I am not aware of any other weights of that type from England during the 19th / early 20th centrury.
But I suppose it could have been an attempt at replicating a French / USA example.
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Interesting - because I thought the bowl looked like a Clichy red as well :)
No,I don't know whether there is any guarantee they were from Falcon. They were presents given to the man who was to become Manager of the Falcon Glassworks for his wedding in 1864 ... but who's to say they weren't from somewhere else.
m
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Please see this thread for some amazing information on Samuel Cole
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,64256.msg360096.html#msg360096
It appears he married Mary, the daughter of Jonathon Richardson, he of W.H., B., & J. Richardson fame, in 1849.
And Samuel Cole is listed as becoming a glassmaker thereafter.
quote from Anne
'1861 Census
Broad Street, Shelton, Stoke-Upon-Trent, Staffordshire
Married (wife's name given as Mary Ann) Male 35 1826 Glass Manufacturer Employing 19 Men 11 Woman 22 Boys'
and continues to be listed as a glassmaker.
Anne has done some fantastic detective work.
So, the paperweight may not be Clichy after all.
m
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or it might be a Clichy
It looks quite like this in layout and design:
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/stroud-auctions-ltd/catalogue-id-srstr10046/lot-37029e27-c9c7-45d3-a993-a5fc00bd4886
http://www.thepotteries.org/industry/glass_works/Paperweight.jpg
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There are images of very similar flowers on page 377 of the Clichy book 'La Cristallerie de Clichy' by Dufrenne, Maes and Maes; the white one is near identical to the Potteries piece, in so far as one can judge from a poor image.
Alan
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Yes. What Alan said :). There are lots of Clichy flower weights of that form.
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Yes, I posted this morning an image of a similar layout and said it was likely to be a Clichy :)
or it might be a Clichy
It looks quite like this in layout and design:
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/stroud-auctions-ltd/catalogue-id-srstr10046/lot-37029e27-c9c7-45d3-a993-a5fc00bd4886
http://www.thepotteries.org/industry/glass_works/Paperweight.jpg
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These Clichy flowers are usually pink or white, though we have a bi-colour one in our collection. The size of flower and the amount of glass around it seems to be quite variable.
Regarding as yet unidentified English paperweight makers, there undoubtedly are some, as there are groups of Old English paperweights currently unattributed to makers. My feeling is that these makers are probably some of thegood class crystal glass makers in the Birmingham area (eg William Gammon, or Osler, or various others). Another factory to consider is Wood Bros in Yorkshire, as two of the owners spent time working at Baccarat in the mid 19th century. That said, there are probably 50 or more candidates scattered across the UK. I would love someone to identify with confidence additional English factories that made paperweights.
Alan