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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Jay on February 24, 2017, 03:01:02 PM
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Does anybody recognise the scrawl on these pieces. They are dated 1988-92,
I can't even work out what letters they are!
Grumpy remark!
There is a certain conceit revealed by artists with an illegible signature!!
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Here's what they look like
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:)
I don't think any of them read Louis le Loup, but I only have one example to compare them with. His signature is illegible and not dissimilar, but I can make out Loup at the end, because I know it's there.
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Leloup signs not cursive, as far as I have seen and I don't think I've seen this shape in his work.
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I don't know much of le Loup's work, the piece I have is "Encrustation Noir", but these pieces don't really look much like it. It doesn't have that shiney iridesence for a start. :)
I'll have to get you an image of the mark on my le Loup piece, Anne, because it looks cursive to me. The p at the end goes down below the rest of it. :)
But it was the only signature I know of which does look anything like this. :-[
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Having found my vase and taken a pic, it's not quite as similar as I'd first though.
I don't look at signatures very often. They're on the bottom. ;D
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I don't look at signatures very often. They're on the bottom. ;D
I know you can never judge a piece on a signature, but sometimes it does help, you know :D :-*
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So here are some more Leloupe signatures for the record. But I don't think they help answer the question.
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It's annoying, obviously a self-respecting artist, who, instead of signing underneath, decides to sign on top of the foot, with production numbers and date and all, but nobody can read it :-\. I can't think of anybody else at the moment who used to do that besides Schneider and sub-marks, but of course we're in a whole different period here.
Not that it means anything, but I've seen these pieces for sale in France and Germany too, same style, same siggie.
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Actually that's a great help. Anne.
The owner wants to know whether they are by a 'known-artist'. If they're floating around markets unidentified then I think we're close to answering that question.
Plus: you walked on by, so they clearly did NOT look better in real life! ;-)
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Perhaps somebody who worked at Lauscha?
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Perhaps it's just a wild guess ... this vase is on sale as Peter Kaspar Studio glass, Germany.
I've come across this before but he tends to do more pinkish marbled/mottled glass and normally his items just tend to have a label with his picture and signature on the label instead of just a signature on the foot.
How this seller managed to id this vase to PK is a mystery to me, but perhaps it's worth investigating, considering these series are not labelled but signed.
Maybe you could otherwise Google and mail him to ask if this is one of his works. Peter-Kaspar dot in deutschland.
If you Google for Peter Kaspar vase, you should come across the label, the vase I mentioned is in the link.
http://www.ebay.at/itm/Grosse-bunte-Kunstler-Design-Glas-Vase-signiert-26-cm-Peter-Kaspar-Fach-B1-/162385697288?hash=item25cef11a08:g:qS4AAOSwA3dYmElO (http://www.ebay.at/itm/Grosse-bunte-Kunstler-Design-Glas-Vase-signiert-26-cm-Peter-Kaspar-Fach-B1-/162385697288?hash=item25cef11a08:g:qS4AAOSwA3dYmElO)
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I forgot to mention that the signature in the link is the same as the one in question, but maybe you've already noticed that.
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Another piece, unusually shaped to say the least, with the same signature and attribution.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/272678420184?clk_rvr_id=1216779104307&rmvSB=true (http://www.ebay.de/itm/272678420184?clk_rvr_id=1216779104307&rmvSB=true)
Why some pieces are signed + dated and some not is not clear to me, maybe it isn't Kaspar or maybe he ran out of labels ;D