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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: The Glass Staircase on April 02, 2017, 10:35:12 AM
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Hi all,
I purchased a decanter with a lot of other Late Georgian / 19th Century glasses and table ware and to be honest when I first briefly looked at it I assumed at was a 20th century copy and packed it away. It's not until yesterday that I had a proper look at it and I feel I could possibly be wrong?
It has a comb moulded base with a high kick and broken pontil mark but no age related wear at all, three badly applied neck rings with a fair amount of dirt trapped under them and a weird (press?) moulded stopper that could possibly be the original as it fits snugly (but it does take a few attempts sometimes) It is also naively engraved which is similar to the decoration found on the period gin / liqueur glasses that came in the same lot.
Is this an Irish Georgian decanter?
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pics of stopper
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I think this of this type as being bohemian mid 19th century but I would wait for a second opinion.
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Thanks for the reply Legsy, what makes you say it is possibly Bohemian as it doesn't have features I would associate with Bohemian glass ?
Best, Adam
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Hi The engraving and the stopper but could be wrong.
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The stopper is a shape I have never seen before so it could be Bohemian for all I know tbqh
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I found a decanter fairly similar and I think it turned out to be from Scandinavia or that area ,maybe Danish?,can't remember now,but there is a thread about these on here somewhere.
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Hi thanks for the reply. Can you elaborate on the features that were similar please as the features of this decanter are not what I would associate with Scandinavian origin unless they were attempting to copy features normally associated with Late Georgian Irish decanters - a moulded base with broken pontil and high kick and press moulded stoppers
Regards, Adam
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You maybe completely correct and I'm just muddying the water,if you search for a thread "Georgian decanter copy ",there's some interesting input from Paul and m and a lot of nonsense from me ::)
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Thanks for the info I'll go and see if I can find it :)
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Unfortunately I couldn't find the thread mentioned as the search only brings up this thread as a result doh! I was reading Miller's Glass Checklist Booklet by Mark West last night and on the Irish Decanters page there is a small paragraph stating that some Continental decanters have moulded fluting on the base but are never made of crystal (which this decanter isn't) and have crudely made, pressed spire or mushroom stoppers. So it seems that this decanter could be Continental after all but from exactly when is still a mystery
Adam
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That's because you were using the wrong search box. Clicking search at top left and putting Georgian decanter in the search box brings up 30 threads...
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Hi ,
These decanters are pretty well documented, in some of the older glass books (B Haynes and G wills) they are attributed to North East England , Tyneside, however they are now believed to be Bohemian , which I think is mentioned in A Mc C's Decanter book.
cheers ,
Peter.
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Hi Peter, thanks for the reply. I haven't got the decanter book but do plan on investing in a copy soon Best, Adam
ps and how stupid of me to not realise there are two search boxes to choose from....