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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => USA => Topic started by: marie anne on April 04, 2017, 02:40:59 PM
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Thought I should share these pictures as I'm feeling a bit sad after being excited to buy these 2 Peacocks on the Fence bowls. I'm pretty new to carnival glass but when I started looking at the bowls in detail they just looked too clean. I've read Glen's posts from 2005/2006 and read that the bold N is a bit of a giveaway. If anyone would like to tell me I'm wrong and the bowls are genuine then I'll be overjoyed, but I think they're fake ???. At least they were cheap but I should have remembered that if it seems too good to be true then it probably is!
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I see nothing wrong. :)
Clean carnival items are everywhere - they usually wash up well - especially if a soft brush has been used around connections for feet etc. I use a Northwood bowl for fruit. Works as it was intended.
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Thanks for your reply. I would be happy if you're right about nothing to worry about. By too clean I meant not enough wear. Maybe they've just been well looked after and I'm being paranoid. I'd also read that the N on the base should be underlined or in a circle, it's just an N on my bowls.
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I really should think before making comments. ::)
As you say, there is no underline with the N. And my thoughts on "clean" are obviously one-dimensional. I should stick to what I know best - which is not a lot. 8)
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I know almost nothing about carnival glass so I welcome your input. I would love to be convinced that they're ok but as my mum says 'I hae ma doots'.
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They don't look right to me: style of base seems wrong and I seem to recall the correct Northwood mark should be underlined. Glen has more info here: http://www.carnivalglassworldwide.com/northwood-fakes.html
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Thanks for the link. I agree the mark seems wrong. :(
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Hi, marie anne.
Yes, unfortunately, those are fakes and likely Chinese.
A few points/giveaways that confirm:
Not an underlined N in a circle; collar base too thick/heavy; the poor, one-dimensional quality of the iridescence combined with the exceptional 'shine' of the glass around the edges; and small differences in their pattern as compared to the original.
Plus I am betting that the overall glass thickness and weight are not right for a period piece.
Best regards
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Thanks for confirming their fakeness... So what to do with them? Glass recycling bin? I would just donate them to a charity shop but I don't even want to give them away as they are in case they get sold on and dupe another Carnival Glass newbie like me. :-[
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Good question.....wish I could offer a good answer!
Those of us who appreciate original, vintage Carnival Glass wish that all the fakes could be removed from the market, but such is not possible.
Even if it were, some enterprising individual or group would simply produce more. :-\
Fill them with candy and donate to an assisted-living facility, or the like?
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Personally I'd keep them and enjoy them. They may not be the real deal but they're still pretty. One advantage is you can use them and not worry too much about them getting chipped, etc. Alternatively you could see if any other collectors are interested in them. People do buy known fakes for study or as an extension of their collection -- indeed in time fakes can sometimes become collectible in their own right.