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Title: Square bowl, signed R. Lalique, unusual
Post by: chilternhills on April 16, 2017, 02:09:57 PM

I came across this square bowl at a fair today. It is about 9 inches square in a streaky white glass, signed 'R Lalique France' on the base. The foot is square and the bowl curves up quite sharply. The bowl seems moulded. The base is not smooth; there is a slight ripple in the surface of the glass. Since the seller was asking a fair wedge of cash for the bowl I didn't buy it but he let me take photos.

I have never seen this type of bowl attributed to Lalique. The seller said he had taken advice on the piece and was told it was made about the time of René Lalique's death. That would place it to shortly after 1945.

Can anyone provide more information about the bowl, please? Many thanks.

Anton

Title: Re: Square bowl, signed R. Lalique, unusual
Post by: Greg. on April 16, 2017, 03:16:35 PM

The signature, shape and especially the colour all look concerning. I suspect not purchasing was the prundent option.

Title: Re: Square bowl, signed R. Lalique, unusual
Post by: chilternhills on April 16, 2017, 03:35:19 PM

I didn't give the bowl a second look when I saw it. When the seller said it was by Lalique I was rather incredulous. The only reason I gave it a chance was the suggested date of manufacture and the second expert opinion obtained by the seller, whose specialty was scientific instruments not glass.

About the colour of the glass, could it be re-used opalescent glass? I don't understand the technicalities of this, but is it a possibility given that 1945 would have been a tough time to get materials?

Title: Re: Square bowl, signed R. Lalique, unusual
Post by: Greg. on April 16, 2017, 03:47:51 PM

I suppose anything is possible, however the quality looks poor. The colour reminds me more of modern recycled glass.

Title: Re: Square bowl, signed R. Lalique, unusual
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 16, 2017, 03:50:35 PM

I was going to say modern recycled glass...

Title: Re: Square bowl, signed R. Lalique, unusual
Post by: flying free on April 16, 2017, 07:38:43 PM

Spanish recycled possibly?

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Title: Re: Square bowl, signed R. Lalique, unusual
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 16, 2017, 07:50:14 PM

Partylite.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Heavy-Glass-Plate-Partylite-Clear-white-Little-tray-plate-MANY-USES-BS-/152064452277?hash=item2367bf66b5:g:N-gAAMXQCZ1Tc26p

I'm getting quite good at recognising it, there are tons of it in charity shops and the first labelled bit I found, some of the writing had come off, so it read Fartylite, which kind of stuck...

I too suspect somebody practising their dremmelling, Anton. ;D

I know they've got different bases and rims, but there are loads of variations in shapes.

Title: Re: Square bowl, signed R. Lalique, unusual
Post by: chilternhills on April 18, 2017, 04:36:44 PM

Thanks Sue. A warning to all to be on guard.

Title: Re: Square bowl, signed R. Lalique, unusual
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 18, 2017, 05:30:41 PM

This Partylite stuff is very similar to some Kosta designs, with the cloudy swirling effects inside.

Title: Re: Square bowl, signed R. Lalique, unusual
Post by: flying free on April 18, 2017, 09:32:31 PM

ooh well done Sue.  Is partylite stuff made in Taiwan? something in my memory or not?

I'm sure I had a white large fruit bowl like this but it said made in Spain I thought.
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Title: Re: Square bowl, signed R. Lalique, unusual
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 19, 2017, 12:48:44 PM

Yes, Taiwan. They have quite a distinctive logo of three candles on a plate.