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Title: Pink centerpiece
Post by: SilviaVB on May 09, 2017, 06:51:13 PM
Hi. Any info about this (lovely) centerpiece would be helpful. I have no clue.

There are no makers marks.

Most probably European (bought in Belgium).

The color (pink) looks more applied on the surface rather than being the color of the glass.

It sounds more like crystal than glass to me, but I am not sure.

(Sorry for the atrocious incompetence!...   :-[)
Title: Re: Pink centerpiece
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 09, 2017, 07:28:30 PM
It might be Inwald.
The pattern looks a bit like Lord or Jacobean, (two names for the same pattern) but I'm not at all sure about the colour.
It might be right, but I'm wondering if it has been left exposed to sunlight for a long tim - some glass can go purple in time, in the sun.
There's a bit of a story about the pattern here. It's a long story, I'd get muddled. :)

http://www.reocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Jacob2.html
Title: Re: Pink centerpiece
Post by: SilviaVB on May 09, 2017, 07:39:22 PM
It might be Inwald.
The pattern looks a bit like Lord or Jacobean, (two names for the same pattern) but I'm not at all sure about the colour.
It might be right, but I'm wondering if it has been left exposed to sunlight for a long tim - some glass can go purple in time, in the sun.
There's a bit of a story about the pattern here. It's a long story, I'd get muddled. :)

http://www.reocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Jacob2.html

Thank you! Yes, the kind of coloration looks like that: on the surface and slightly pearly.
It could have been exposed to the sun: I bought it at a flea market (open air), and who knows from how long the seller had it. Let's see, I am reading your link, at least I have a starting point. Thanks.
Title: Re: Pink centerpiece
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 09, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
It's a pattern than was made in both pressed glass and in crystal, the crystal pieces have polished bottoms, the pressed ones don't.  :)
Title: Re: Pink centerpiece
Post by: Paul S. on May 10, 2017, 01:42:28 PM
to me it looks far too pink to be sun purpling  -  the effect of ultra violet on manganese, I think.                   Agree with Sue as to similarity with Schrotter's Lord pattern (called 'Jacobean' when Clayton Mayers marketed and sold it in the U.K. ), but have a horrible feeling that other manufacturers also made similar patterns with these windows/lenses, and I remember Pamela commenting once that it was difficult to tell the difference between pieces made by different factories.       Inwald apparently made this range in amber, rose pink, blue, green, clear and of course carnival, so always a chance this one might be from the Lord/Jacobean range, and think I've seen most of these colours except rose pink - so this bowl might just be that colour.         According to Andy McConnell, by the mid 1930s there were no less than 275 separate Jacobean shapes available.

Not too sure about the comments re pressed and crystal though   -  as Sue's link states clearly, Glenn Thistlewood commented way back that the early pieces made in Czechoslovakia had mirror-like bases (at least where the glass was flat), whereas U.K. made pieces lacked shiny bottoms.                 There is still acres of Jacobean around in Charity shops - I saw a water jug this morning carrying the name - so the pattern must have been made for a very long time.   

Sorry, none of which helps, but this is an attractive bowl.