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Title: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: Kazmichelle on July 30, 2017, 05:46:55 PM
Hi all, I'm hoping this is possibly Whitefriars/Powell. It looks to be sea green, it has folded foot and snapped off pontil . 14 cm high . Very similar to Harry Powell lotus vase , I have included a screenshot of the Powell vase for comparison.
Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: Paul S. on July 30, 2017, 09:15:58 PM
hi  -  could be a real find if it does turn out to be Harry Powell from all that time ago.               On the other hand if it doesn't, you might consider the Murano output from AVeM  -  they did a lot of this Cappellin type of impossibly thin stuff with folded foot rims.
Love the colour by the way, and of course would be better if it was Powell  -  fingers crossed as you say. :)
Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: KevinH on July 31, 2017, 12:12:44 AM
Hi Kazmichelle,

Is the photo of the Powell "Lotus Vase" your own, or is it a copy from the Pinterest site, currently the first on the following page: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/429530883195783009/ ?

If it is not your own original image, then as per Board Guidelines on copyrighted images (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,24434.0.html), it will be removed but can be replaced by the above (or other) link. A moderator will tidy things up as needed.
Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: glassobsessed on July 31, 2017, 06:31:32 PM
For what it is worth I would tend towards Powell rather than Murano here, something about the simplicity of the shape, very elegant.

John
Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: Kazmichelle on August 01, 2017, 03:31:17 PM
Yes hopefully its , just need con of conformation by a Whitefriars expert .
Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: Marc1976 on August 01, 2017, 03:53:24 PM
Something about it doesn't seem quite right. Not sure what though.
Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: flying free on August 01, 2017, 06:26:38 PM
I know nothing about Powell glass but in comparison, the squatness or shortness of your foot and the way the bowl of your piece is slightly bulbous means they don't look the same shape to me  :-[

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Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: Kazmichelle on August 01, 2017, 07:05:59 PM
Hi marc there's a video on YouTube called Whitefriars exhibition Manchester 1996 it was filmed by Patrick Hogan. About 140 seconds in it shows two pieces, one is tall looks to be sky blue and other looks to be the same as my piece ,there is another shot of it a few seconds later. Would appreciate it if you could take look.

Karen
Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: Marc1976 on August 01, 2017, 08:41:09 PM
Hi Karen.

I know the video well. Your piece could be right, but I'm sitting on the fence at the moment. I think the engraved piece you've shown is from an exhibition and could be experimental so if ithe design went into production it could have altered.

I'll do a bit of digging. Meanwhile here s a link that the vid for anyone else.

https://youtu.be/KkMTRmjO2qk
Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: Paul S. on August 01, 2017, 08:53:15 PM
hello Karen  -  compliments on your ferreting around and in depth interest in some of these items  .............    just out of curiosity was this piece sold as W/Fs (or possibly)  -  or did you have one of those lightbulb occasions when you saw the shape/colour? :)
Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: flying free on August 01, 2017, 08:58:07 PM
here's one from what they call the 'series' in the British Museum.  Not sure if it belongs to the same 'series' as the one you originally linked to but it has similarities
http://www.museumoflondonprints.com/image/143241/james-powell-and-sons-whitefriars-ltd-goblet-made-in-sea-green-glass-20th-century

so perhaps they did come in different shapes?
Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: flying free on August 01, 2017, 09:06:36 PM
Here is a better link to that piece with information and I think the photo enlarges to see details

https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O5146/vase-powell-harry-j/
Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: Kazmichelle on August 01, 2017, 09:19:06 PM
It was the light bulb moment at a car boot , it instantly reminded me of the of the harry Powell lotus vase and thought I wonder if wf made one without the engraving. It is very well made ,its definitely sea green 14 cm high the same as the lotus and got a folded foot the same as the lotus vase . It makes a wonderful ring when pinged. .
Karen
Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: Paul S. on August 02, 2017, 08:34:10 AM
hi  -  yes, I know that sound  -  the odd bowl of theirs that I've found over the years has rung, when flicked, in just the same way  -  there's almost no other ring quite like that of W/Fs.
This overall sort of 'conical shape seems to go back quite a long way in their repertoire -  have to admit that I don't think I would have been able to say - when walking past the boot table - ah, there a piece of Harry Powell - so very well done. :)
Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: flying free on August 02, 2017, 09:28:05 AM
Has this been confirmed  as a Harry Powell then?


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Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: Paul S. on August 02, 2017, 01:26:41 PM
 :-[  Edited to add to my previous post  .................    "ah, there's a piece of Harry Powell, possibly"  ;)
Title: Re: Possible Whitefriars Harry Powell
Post by: flying free on August 02, 2017, 01:42:50 PM
 ;D 

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