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Title: Orange Baluster Vase ID Help
Post by: The Glass Staircase on July 31, 2017, 08:57:03 AM
Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone is familiar with this vase or can give me pointers on who possibly made it ? It is 12 inches high and 5.75 inches diameter at its widest point with a fair amount of wear on the applied foot. It also has a broken unpolished pontil mark.

Any help greatly appreciated as always!

Adam
Title: Re: Orange Baluster Vase ID Help
Post by: The Glass Staircase on July 31, 2017, 08:57:34 AM
some more pics
Title: Re: Orange Baluster Vase ID Help
Post by: The Glass Staircase on July 26, 2019, 06:32:27 PM
Thought I'd give this a bump as I am still none the wiser on this vase
Title: Re: Orange Baluster Vase ID Help
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 26, 2019, 07:26:29 PM
 :)
It has a bit of a Maltese sort of aura around it, but Mdina wouldn't be footed, and certainly not in this sort of shape.
It does look as if Silver Nitrate might have been added to the reds, to create browns but I can't be sure.
It would be a sort of later 70s up to the mid-'80s kind of colourway, and it was around then (mid '80s) that Phoenician Glass was set up.
Initially they did do very Mdina-like things, but quite quickly found and developed their own style.

So I'm chucking the vague idea out somewhere, that it might be early Phoenician.  ???
 :)
The terrace of housing in your background looks kind of familiar and home-y. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Orange Baluster Vase ID Help
Post by: The Glass Staircase on July 27, 2019, 02:55:55 PM
Thanks for the reply. I would agree with everything you said but the amount of wear on the base suggests it's older or possibly had a very hard life :) I picked up a Phoenician Glass vase today with what looks like silver andd gold foil in it marked GA06 and it does look similar but doesn't have the same amount of wear if any really. The orange vase has a thick circular mark of wear, the photo of the base I took a while back wasn't the best, maybe I should take another.

The vase also has four whorls (look like the pisces sign) around it which made me think possibly monart/vasart/strathearn when I first got it but a couple of people have dismissed that suggestion when i've shown them it

Yeah that's in Dundee beside Baxter Park if you're familiar :)

I've posted a pic of the vase I got today, is this an early example ? Also another picture of base


Adam
Title: Re: Orange Baluster Vase ID Help
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 27, 2019, 04:35:19 PM
I did notice the sworls, one of the other reasons I went for Phoenician.
I suspect your very nice piece is rather later. I have, in general, seen much more Phoenician that is less like Mdina than is. So I'd suspect they developed their own styles fairly rapidly.
It was the sophisticateion of the sworls helped nudge me.

I'm really not at all sure.That is just my best guess. I might be completely wrong.

Sworls have been used in places other than by the Ysarts - IoWSG adopted them for their Mosaic stuff.


Baxter Park? I did say it looked very familar and kind of homey! I live beside Balgay, but I lived beside Baxter Park before I moved here. 
It's always a good idea to live within walking distance to the November 5th Fireworks displays.  ;D
Title: Re: Orange Baluster Vase ID Help
Post by: The Glass Staircase on July 29, 2019, 07:48:11 AM
Indeed, both parks have the best displays to go to!

I'll look into early Phoenician but from memory the few other phoenician pieces I've had (a couple were early with the first sticker) were finished polished flat like the one I have pictured and orange vase isn't but will stay open minded for now :)
Title: Re: Orange Baluster Vase ID Help
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 29, 2019, 08:14:29 AM
All the Phoeneican I've ever has had beautifully polished bases
Title: Re: Orange Baluster Vase ID Help
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 29, 2019, 11:08:33 AM
I'm not terribly convinced it is Phoenician, it's just the only contender I can think of.  ::)
There's a bit upstairs I need to get brought down to inspect, but I have found a bottle down here.
It's tall and slim, very nicely mottled white, with a band of black random strapping.
It has a satinated textture on the base, with Phoenician etched on. It has a round plastic clear label, saying Phoenician, and a black sticker on the base saying Artisans Centre Valetta - Malta.
But not a polished shiney bottom.  :)