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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Edoardo on August 06, 2017, 11:54:53 PM
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Hello everyone, I need you to help me to know if this piece is true or false. Only signed orrefors. Thanks.
Watch this link:
https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-641332700-centro-de-cristal-orrefors-firmado-muy-pesado-ano-1930-_JM
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hi - welcome to the GMB ............ I've a feeling the Board policy is that we're actively discouraged from commenting on commercial sales - it avoids the possibility of litigation for libel etc - sorry :)
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From the Board Information, Help & Announcements section, in the thread for ADMIN: BOARD POLICY - Please read before posting (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6521.msg55556.html#msg55556), the board policy about commenting on online auctions is summed up as:
If you wish to draw attention to an on-line auction which you consider to be "not as described" you may provide a link to the auction but you should only state that "in my opinion this piece has not been described correctly." Or, for example, in the case of a signature that you feel is incorrect "the signature does not appear to be genuine." It would also be advisable to ask if others have any opinion. Do not state anything is a fact, unless you can provide documentary proof!
So, Edordo's request for an opinion is ok.
Problems generally only arise when responses move away from "... in my opinion .... it is correct ..." or "in my view .. it is not as described ...". Any deviations, especially those that might be taken as criticism of a seller, are watched carefully and dealt with by the moderators where necessary.
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Judging by Edoardo's wording - "I need you to help me to know if this piece is true or false", then something a little more definitive than an opinion was required, which prompted me to reply.
The problem with responding to requests such as this is that folk get carried away and it's all too easy to say the wrong thing - however, let's hope someone is able to help Edoardo :)
P.S. During the C20, the style of the signature of this company varied ........ sometimes u/c sometimes l/c, and it would appear from the books that designer codes and supplemental codes for categories of wares were used, often. The date of c. 1930, included with this description, does make the implied date a little earlier than coverage of Orrefors in most of the books on modern glass. In the absence of such information this one is perhaps not so easy to comment on ............... but that's just my opinion you understand. ;)
PPS - As has been suggested in similar situations in the past, Edoardo might consider contacting the seller to ask for details to support the provenance/attribution of this item - certainly no harm.
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The bowl does not look as if it has enough wear on the base to be from 1930. It appears to be signed on the side of the foot and not on the base as I would expect. Is the signature even spelt correctly?
Nice looking bowl but I would not be comfortable buying it without more information
John
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the spelling looks o.k., but from memory the signature is usually found on the underside.
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It looks like Orrofors rather than Orrefors.