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Title: Vaseline glass... but what is it?
Post by: idiganthro on August 07, 2017, 12:01:59 AM
It's a vaseline glass... thingy?  Bud vase? Bottom of oil lamp? Perfume?

7.25" tall, base 3", top diameter about .5" with a small opening.

Name that thingy!  😀
Title: Re: Vaseline glass... but what is it?
Post by: glassobsessed on August 07, 2017, 08:12:40 AM
One possibility is a lace makers lamp.

John
Title: Re: Vaseline glass... but what is it?
Post by: ju1i3 on August 07, 2017, 03:57:22 PM
Aren't those lamps more 18th century? This looks more 19th century. If I'm wrong on dates, a lamp is more utilitarian and this looks more decorative, IMHO.

Is it a vase, a bud vase, in a novelty style to look like a lamp/candle holder? Is that water staining at the bottom?
Title: Re: Vaseline glass... but what is it?
Post by: glassobsessed on August 07, 2017, 06:29:35 PM
One of my favourite bits of glass is a lace makers lamp made by George Elliot, probably in the 1970s or 80s.
Title: Re: Vaseline glass... but what is it?
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 07, 2017, 07:00:32 PM
The OP got an answer elsewhere as a Jamestown Glassworks Colonial Sparking lamp made in the 1970s/80s. looks right to me on a Google search
Title: Re: Vaseline glass... but what is it?
Post by: Gowdod on August 07, 2017, 07:24:04 PM
Dear GlassObsessed,

I'd love to see a picture of your George Elliott lacemaker lamp please. I have a collection of over 40 Elliott pieces now but not seen one of them.

Yours hopefully.  Andrew
Title: Re: Vaseline glass... but what is it?
Post by: brucebanner on August 07, 2017, 08:13:14 PM
They are oil lamps no idea why they become lacemakers lamps?. The OP is very nice and probably uranium.

I also have a good colecction of George Elliot.
Title: Re: Vaseline glass... but what is it?
Post by: idiganthro on August 07, 2017, 08:43:32 PM
There is, indeed, about an inch of residue at the bottom, as in the bottom of a vase or other vessel.
Title: Re: Vaseline glass... but what is it?
Post by: glassobsessed on August 08, 2017, 04:27:52 PM
Oil lamps they are then, I stand corrected.  :)

Sadly I did not buy the Elliot lamp Andrew but I know a man who did.... I have been given permission to post these photos here (thanks Mike) as they are not mine. It was made in 1972.
Title: Re: Vaseline glass... but what is it?
Post by: KevinH on August 09, 2017, 01:34:02 AM
Chris said, in Reply 6 above:
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They are oil lamps no idea why they become lacemakers lamps?

For a possible source of the term "lacemaker's lamp", rather than "Open flame oil lamp", check out this pdf file on the subject: *THE GREAT DECEPTION - LACE MAKERS LAMPS* */By Brian Lemin/* Reviewed and reworked Jan 2010. (https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/webdocs/lb_lamps.pdf) See page 9 of 12, where the author states:
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To be blunt, these lamps are not lace maker’s lamps but rather a generic name attributed to this style of lamp by less knowledgeable antique dealers.

So there you have it. It seems those pesky antiques dealers must take the blame (but which ones were "less knowledgeable", and when, and in which literature did their lack of knowledge first get passed into print?).

For extra info, suggesting "early lighting collectors" as also being responsible for the misnomer of "lacemaker's lamp" see a 2011 post in lacenews.net (https://lacenews.net/2011/04/12/collecting-lighting-for-the-lacemaker/) for good commentary and illustrated examples.

And for basic summary info on the so-called "lacemakers lamp" see Reply 1 by Peter (oldglassman) in a 2012 thread titled "possible C19 lacemakers lamp" (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,49730.msg280884.html#msg280884)
Title: Re: Vaseline glass... but what is it?
Post by: brucebanner on August 09, 2017, 08:05:09 AM
Out of the two I have posted, the one on the left I'm sure is Victorian and well made and I'm guessing expensive with the cutting and polished base not something that would have been used  in a cottage industry more like an upper class home, the one on the right I think is a reproduction due to it being in such good condition and there are so many of them, even in the link there is one unless they were made in huge numbers, I like the Elliot one very nice.

I have two early Victorian oil lamps in the shape of I think turkeys I put on here a while ago.