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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: carlovision on August 19, 2017, 09:26:11 PM
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A Paul Ysart Badge Paperweight with Military Cap Badge of the Royal Regiment of Artillery inside, Made in Scotland in WW2, Art Glass 1930s.
A 1930s - 1940s period "badge weight". by Paul Ysart. Several are known to exist with most being a standard paperweight containing a military cap badge set on a spattered ground. Paul Ysart made few during WW2 due to lack of colour materials in Great Britain.
This intriguing heraldic paperweight is blunted at the base of the Coat of Arms therein so it may be placed on its side to present its contents which read in Latin: "Ubique Suo Fas Et Glory Ducunt", or "("Everywhere That Right And Glory Lead") for the Royal Artillery. The Royal Regiment of Artillery, commonly referred to as the Royal Artillery (RA) and colloquially known as "The Gunners", is the artillery arm of the British Army. The Royal Regiment of Artillery comprises thirteen Regular Army Regiments, King's Troop Royal Horse Artillery and five Army Reserve Regiments.
Paperweight's provenance is of the important New Orleans collector, Felix H. Kuntz the Dean of Americana, (1890-1971).
Dimensions: About 2" tall and 3" in diameter.
*Anyone know its approx value? I saw wonderful ones here: http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=336&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=6
Thanks.
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Hi. Many of these badges originally attributed to Paul Ysart are actually Belgian. It would be useful to see both profile and base images, but I suspect from the coarse spaced frit ground that this is actually a b
Belgian example.
Alan
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Hi, first off i have all the pix you require but your system only allows for uploads of up to 120K so I had to resort to one screen capture which was under 120k and oddly my other 3 screencaptures were also larger than 120k. Is there a workaround?
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As for the wording, its from a draft i have set up for a client to list it with Bonham's in L.A. I would like to show Bonham's your group's response as we evaluate this paperweight in order to keep their value.
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Hi. I am surprised Bonham's would consider a low value piece like this - here in the UK they usually look for a minimum estimate of £400 to £600, whereas this would probably make only 10% to 15% of that.
Alan
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One more try - I could not reply to my previous post of same, so here are the optimized images and descriptive language.
A 1930s - 1940s period "badge weight". by Paul Ysart. Several are known to exist with most being a standard paperweight containing a military cap badge set on a spattered or moottled ground. Paul Ysart made few during WW2 due to lack of colour materials in Great Britain.
This intriguing heraldic paperweight is blunted at the base of the Coat of Arms therein so it may be placed on its side to present its contents which read in Latin: "Ubique Suo Fas Et Glory Ducunt", or "("Everywhere That Right And Glory Lead") for the Royal Artillery. The Royal Regiment of Artillery, commonly referred to as the Royal Artillery (RA) and colloquially known as "The Gunners", is the artillery arm of the British Army. The Royal Regiment of Artillery comprises thirteen Regular Army Regiments, King's Troop Royal Horse Artillery and five Army Reserve Regiments.
Dimensions: About 2" tall and 3" in diameter.
*Seeking verification and value. Thanks!
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Hi. Thanks for the extra images. I would not be confident attributing this to Paul Ysart, rather than to a Belgian factory. There are quite a lot of these badge weights around, and they vary in glass quality, frit style, and shape. There are threads on this board discussing them - search for 'badge paperweight' and you will find several discussions. Regarding value, I bought one a couple of months ago for £38.00, so to repeat what I said on your earlier thread, I am surprised Bonham's would consider a low value piece like this - here in the UK Bonhams usually look for a minimum estimate of £400 to £600, whereas this would probably make only 10% to 15% of that.
Alan
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Thank you Alan! I'll advise the client simply sell it online and fish a bit. More to come. :)
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Both topics merged foe tidiness. :)
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Thanks, carlovision for the explanations about the original text and image.
Thanks, Allan for the responses and explanations.
Thanks, Anne for sorting out the merge of two threads.
All I would add to Allan's comments about Badge Weights of this type is that, as a serious collector of Paul Ysart weights, I hesitate when I see any similar examples.
I have two in my collection, one a regular domed weight and the other with the weight set atop a footed pedestal. The pedestal example was purchased from a former dealer and its provenance was said to be "from a member of the Ysart family". It is shown in my article on Paul Ysart weights etc. (http://www.theglassmuseum.com/ysart.htm) produced in 1999 / 2000 (scroll down nearly half way through the article). Since then, I have decided that I am unable to accurately judge the authenticity of any similar weight, with or without a pedestal, as being definitely by Paul Ysart.
In my article, I state that the ultraviolet tests of my pedestal weight "indicate Moncrieff factory". However, after many more years of UV checks on a variety of weights I can confirm that the UV results under longwave and shortwave bulbs often show no difference between "early Ysart" items and items that could be from a European source.
The only real clue is, as Allan touched on, the "glass quality and frit style", with some probable Paul Ysart ones (such as my pedestal example), showing very little wreathing in the clear glass and very few air bubbles around or over the encased badge.
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(found the reply button! Must be logged in and browser wasn't letting me know the difference when logged out after some time had passed)
Regarding, the "glass quality and frit style", do my photo examples show wreathing in the clear glass and air bubbles around or over the encased badge? My naked eye sees a tiny streak of bubbles in the slight wreathing and then maybe 2 bubbles near the badge - all are small if you cannot see the in the photos.
Thanks for any new info on authenticity and value.
More to come.
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Hi. I thi nk it is mist likely Belgian. Regarding value, I won a badge weight at a UK auction last week for the equivalent of US $35.00.
Alan