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Title: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: swm93 on September 13, 2017, 08:14:21 PM: Hi, can anybody tell me the age of this wine glass please?.
I don't know if it's old or just made to look old as it has been made by hand I think and also has some "defects",
like lines on the bowl and also the lip being a weird shape etc - which I think show up in the photos.
It also has a scratch on the bottom of the base.
It's 10.3cm tall, the bowl is 5cm wide and the base is 5cm wide.
Thanks for your help in advance :) .
swm93.
Title: Re: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: Coupsdestylo on September 14, 2017, 06:28:57 AM: Looks a lot like a Nick & Nora glass, a classic cocktail design read something the other day about them coming back into fashion again :-)
Title: Re: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: bat20 on September 14, 2017, 06:53:57 AM: Difficult to tell from the images,but it seems to have a shear mark indicating a gadget was used in the making so it could be around 1870.
Title: Re: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: swm93 on September 14, 2017, 02:12:11 PM: Quote from: Coupsdestylo on September 14, 2017, 06:28:57 AM
Looks a lot like a Nick & Nora glass, a classic cocktail design read something the other day about them coming back into fashion again :-)

Thanks for the reply.
It does look very similar to a Nick & Nora glass but the one I have looks a little bit more crude than the Nick & Nora glass I've seen online.
Although I have got 5 others that came with this one, which may make sense as Nick & Nora glass comes in sets. I don't know.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: swm93 on September 14, 2017, 02:14:45 PM: Quote from: bat20 on September 14, 2017, 06:53:57 AM
Difficult to tell from the images,but it seems to have a shear mark indicating a gadget was used in the making so it could be around 1870.

Thanks for the reply.
I was hoping it might be Victorian but I have got 5 others that are very similar to this one that came with it,
but they aren't marked with a similar scratch on the bottom like this - would that make them older or younger do you think?
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 14, 2017, 02:47:59 PM: New photographs against a plain black background might help, including one of the edge profile of the foot, one of the rim and one of the "scratch". Is the foot perfectly round? One against a plain white background would be useful to see colour. How identical are the glasses?
Title: Re: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: Coupsdestylo on September 14, 2017, 02:55:30 PM: The Nick and Nora could be a red herring sorry I don't know enough about stemware.
I'm sure though that for some a set of Nick & Nora's would be more desirable than Victorian :-)
This is a the article I saw the other day about them https://www.liquor.com/articles/nick-and-nora/#gs.IaWHDBI and for a laugh you yan search youtube for "Nick and nora cocktail compilation"
I think your glass is rather nice
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Title: Re: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: swm93 on September 14, 2017, 04:45:30 PM: Quote from: Lustrousstone on September 14, 2017, 02:47:59 PM
New photographs against a plain black background might help, including one of the edge profile of the foot, one of the rim and one of the "scratch". Is the foot perfectly round? One against a plain white background would be useful to see colour. How identical are the glasses?

I feel abit foolish but I found that 3 of the glasses are similar and at a closer look three are nothing alike unfortunately.
One of the 3 is actually taller than the other two and one has a quite oddly shaped base, I'll share the images in a reply.
The thickness of the stems is quite different aswell and they aren't uniform in smoothness, they're quite wavey or bumpy - however you want to explain it :) .
Thanks.
Title: Re: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: swm93 on September 14, 2017, 05:03:46 PM: Here's some photos of the glasses. :)
Title: Re: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: swm93 on September 14, 2017, 05:07:07 PM: Here's another two photos of the other bases, which I now realise have similar marks to the other one.
Also sorry about the finger prints!
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: swm93 on September 14, 2017, 05:16:26 PM: Oh and here's a close up of the rim of the original glass I put on here.
Title: Re: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 14, 2017, 07:15:08 PM: I would say they were late Victorian and of "Woolworth's" type quality. Despite their differences I would say they all came from the same company. Quality control was nothing like we expect today.
Title: Re: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: swm93 on September 14, 2017, 08:02:37 PM: Quote from: Lustrousstone on September 14, 2017, 07:15:08 PM
I would say they were late Victorian and of "Woolworth's" type quality. Despite their differences I would say they all came from the same company. Quality control was nothing like we expect today.

Thanks for your honesty :D
Title: Re: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 15, 2017, 08:13:46 AM: I like odd, old glasses like these because of their quirkiness and the fact that they are still around. Whoever bought them obviously treasured them.
Title: Re: Is this an "old" wine glass?
Post by: swm93 on September 15, 2017, 01:02:03 PM: Quote from: Lustrousstone on September 15, 2017, 08:13:46 AM
I like odd, old glasses like these because of their quirkiness and the fact that they are still around. Whoever bought them obviously treasured them.

Thanks - I agree, I like them too and yeah they must have liked them also.