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Title: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: essi on December 03, 2017, 09:08:19 PM
The green colouring in this vase made me think of Nazeing and the unpolished pontil mark.
Having looked at a few Nazeing images I have not seen the brown colour.
I know swirl patterns are difficult to pin down, hopefully someone has some input.
The vase is 304mm high and 135mm diameter.
Thanks for your help,
Tim
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: Paul S. on December 03, 2017, 10:06:03 PM
It's wise to be careful when using the word 'no' - but my reasons for speculating that the answer is negative Tim, are twofold, mainly  ......

one is that whilst the factory did create some colours that do have a marbled appearance, your piece with its almost two separate colours doesn't  appear in the Geoffrey C. Timberlake book ........

the other reason is that although Nazeing did make the cylinder shape, it looks to have been very rare, and early when it did so.

I'm also not seeing the bubble structure that we see so often from that factory, so my thoughts are not Nazeing.                 Nigel will have a far greater insight into the possibilities of whether or no Nazeing for your vase - perhaps he might see this and look in. :)
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: nigelbenson on December 10, 2017, 04:02:58 PM
Hello Tim,

Whilst the way that this piece is finished is consistent with post-war Nazeing pontil marks, that is where any relationship stops IMHO.

The thickness of the glass; the way that the colour is laid in with a sort of 'pebble' look; and the strange erratic wavy line are not consistent with their work.

Whilst a cylinder is one of their shapes, it is also for a number of other manufacturers.

Overall therefore I would say not Nazeing.

Cheers, Nigel
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: essi on December 10, 2017, 07:23:59 PM
Thanks to Paul and Nigel for there comments on my posting. It was the shade of green and the bottom finish that took me in Nazeing direction.
After much looking at nazeing images that brown does not seem to feature anywhere in there designs.
This vase will be getting some tall stemmed flowers in the summer.
Thanks again,
Tim
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 10, 2017, 07:37:34 PM
I suspect studio glass and more recent than Nazeing.
It looks irritatingly familiar, (as in; I think I saw what that was once, but I've forgotten).
Guernsey? (the ground pontil mark would be odd, if it is.)
Midsummer?
Adrian Sankey?
something else I've forgotten?  ;D
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: Paul S. on December 10, 2017, 10:14:50 PM
thanks for looking in Nigel - appreciated.
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: Frank on December 18, 2017, 02:08:52 AM
Peter Holmes or John Deacons are possibilities, worth asking them.
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: glassobsessed on December 18, 2017, 10:01:46 AM
For what it is worth I would look to the far east, it has many of the typical features, somewhat poorly executed generic design, large in size, unpolished pontil mark.

John
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: nigelbenson on December 18, 2017, 05:00:06 PM
Possibly Romanian via TK Maxx about 12 or so years back, if memory serves  ;)  :)

Cheers, Nigel
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: Paul S. on December 18, 2017, 05:04:50 PM
I've a feeling that John's comment about the unpolished pontil depression, might not hold up for all - or even that much - of Nazeing  ......  don't have any of mine now, but seem to remember they were sometimes quite dull.
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: essi on December 22, 2017, 09:12:16 PM
Thanks for the extra feedback, deep down I am coming round to the not British comments.
I do have a few items of nazeing but don't think I will have a chance to unpack them till the summer.
Maybe post a few pictures of the pontil marks.
Hope your Christmas is good and all the best for the new year,
Tim
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: brucebanner on December 22, 2017, 09:29:00 PM
Did they ever used a matt acid finish?
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: nigelbenson on December 22, 2017, 09:33:36 PM
Unpolished pontil yes, but not finished using acid.
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: brucebanner on December 22, 2017, 10:00:39 PM
Sorry Nigel i'm on about all over.
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: nigelbenson on December 22, 2017, 10:02:45 PM
Never seen an acid washed piece.
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 23, 2017, 01:16:20 PM
Nigel's comment about Romanian from TKMaxx some time over 10 years ago, has tinkled a bell with me. That might well be where I've seen it.
I found very good glass there when it first opened. Lovely Beranek, Tarnowiec, and some fabby Romanian stuff. :)
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 26, 2017, 12:55:50 PM
I've just brought down a very large Romanian vase I bought in TKMaxx a long time ago. (perhaps nearly 20 years ago? they used to stock good glass)
After cleaning it, :-[ I found the label. Romblast is the maker.
My vase does have the "typical" streaky strapping.

Title: Re: Possible Nazeing?(or something else)
Post by: essi on December 26, 2017, 03:28:00 PM
Thanks for the sterling effort Sue, my knowledge of European glass is not that great.
Will spend some time looking at images of the glass makers you mentioned.
Thanks again,
Tim