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Title: Is this genuine or fake?
Post by: Timeobject on December 08, 2017, 12:13:04 PM

I have a vase With a murano label.
I want to sel the vase via the Catawiki auction site, the auctioneer says that this is a fake vase from China, can someone confirm or disprove this. I add two photos of the vase and of the label.

Title: Re: Is this genuine or fake?
Post by: Anne on December 09, 2017, 01:34:45 AM

Could you please add photos of the base as well?  That will help enormously.

I have split your post from the Murano 101 labels topic as that is just for archive images of labels and your query may be missed there.

Title: Re: Is this genuine or fake?
Post by: Jay on December 12, 2017, 08:57:32 AM

This design does not look like Chambord.
Typically Chambord vases have a dark colour at the core (pink/blue/purple etc.) and then are cased sommerso (so that the coloured parts appear to 'float' over the table). Most designs had a clear 'block foot' (typically square, sometimes triangular) There are four? basic models of vase and some bowls.
Although this is obviousy a 'free-form' design which has been hand worked, it doesn't share anything else that is similar to the established examples of Chambord. (No colour, no 'floating foot', no similar design recorded in the archive/webtrawl?)
I wouldn't immediately conclude China, but I'm also not sure that it is a Chambord vase by Frat. Toso.

Title: Re: Is this genuine or fake?
Post by: Lustrousstone on December 12, 2017, 10:08:21 AM

Could be a label from elsewhere. The vase doesn't look typically Chinese or Murano, nor does it look poor quality

Title: Re: Is this genuine or fake?
Post by: Timeobject on December 18, 2017, 05:14:18 PM

Thanks for all the comments.
I have ad a picture of the base.
hope this brings some clarity

Title: Re: Is this genuine or fake?
Post by: Feline on December 25, 2017, 09:00:32 PM

Hi,

Can you confirm that on the bottom there is no signature of any sort?

Title: Re: Is this genuine or fake?
Post by: Gowdod on December 26, 2017, 08:22:56 AM

Looking at the label on the bottom line it says FLLI TOSO......Fratelli Toso???

ANdrew

Title: Re: Is this genuine or fake?
Post by: Gowdod on December 26, 2017, 08:25:15 AM

Yes just searched Chambord Murano Fratelli Toso and examples pop up.

Andrew

Title: Re: Is this genuine or fake?
Post by: BDG55 on January 19, 2018, 01:46:06 AM

This is a Fratelli Toso label. On the bottom it says FLLI, which, as Andrew said, is short for Fratelli which means brothers.

Title: Re: Is this genuine or fake?
Post by: ahremck on January 19, 2018, 06:19:50 AM

I would be very suspicious about a vase of this type in clear glass being Murano.  Usually they have a coloured layer(s) encased in clear.  It looks far to plain to be Murano.  Possibly a "floating" label has been used to enhance value somewhere in the past.

Ross