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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Jimfahy on December 25, 2017, 10:41:42 PM
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Another Gift From Xmas (I'm Easy to Buy For lol)
Any Advise on the Manufacturer? Its the darkest of Purples with a Ground Flat Base
No Marks/Incussions/Labels
Cheers Again
Jim
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;D
I really do not think it represents Beethoven. He had a much more square sort of face, his eyes were wider set and his nose was not so long, it was flatter and squatter.
It looks a little more like Lizst, but could easily be a politician or some military something rather than a composer, or is there some reason you think it could be a musical tribute?
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Is it this one ....
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-1970s-INGRID-GLASS-Beethoven-and-Mozart-Head-Bust-for-music-lovers/112204790402?hash=item1a1fed3a82:m:mQVsMcpXXIGh1AZZaU3bHww
- Ingrid Glass ?
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Is that not still just somebody guessing who it is supposed to represent, even if it confirms Ingridglas as the maker.
It doesn't look anything like Mozart either. ;D
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Liszt was generally less severe looking than Beethoven and had straighter and longer hair.
I think it is supposed to be Beethoven, but all the surface reflections in the image do not help to see the true features. Also, most Beethoven busts show shirt and jacket collars whereas the Ingrid version does not.
Maybe the Ingrid version was based on a bust similar to this Hagen one (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Beethoven_bust_statue_by_Hagen-crop.jpg)
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Beethoven looked grumpy, or about to sneeze, not severe; and Liszt had a long face and big nose like this and he was decidedly scary.
I'd recognise the Hagen bust as Beethoven, the shape of the face is right, even if it does make him a bit romantic and good-looking. But it doesn't look anything like the glass ones.
We might have to agree to disagree.
I wouldn't have the glass thing, because I am very fond of Beethoven.
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I like Beethoven, too ... 8)
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Beethoven looked grumpy
True, but you can't say that the person in question's a ray of sunshine though...
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perhaps being a miserable old git comes with the territory when you're a genius - either that or he was p----d off with saying to everyone - "sorry, didn't quite catch that" ;) ;)
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He was a genius, so he was surrounded by relative morons all the time, it must have been frustrating. :P So must pianos not yet being robust enough.
But his music tells us what was going on, inside.
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whilst on the subject of this genius, it might be worth adding some relevant historic interest regarding one of his best know piano compositions ................. it transpires that the lovable little number we know as 'fur Elise', owes its title to a misunderstanding, which occurred one day at the composers home.
The young lady of the same name was absent at work when the postman called at her apartment, adjacent to the Beethoven's, and being ever helpful the postman went to the next apartment where the door was opened by frau Beethoven, who kindly took in the parcel with the promise that she would give the item to fraulein Elise when the girl returned from the office.
However, before this intended event could take place, there was another knock at the door - some relatives of Herr Beethoven, being in the area had decided to drop in and surprise their aunt and uncle - just prior to which point the maestro had run to the piano to try and finish this little gem we all love so much.
Entering the hall, the visitors could hear immediately the plaintive and haunting notes of the maestro's new composition, and being so impressed with the tune asked Frau Beethoven what it was called......................... being rather pre-occupied discussing kitchen matters with the new cook, the mistress of the house assumed, wrongly - and history denies us the reason behind this cataclysmic faux pau - that her relatives were referring to the owner of the parcel left by the postman.
"Oh", said Frau Beethoven "das ist fur Elise" - at which point, ordinarily, this mis-understanding might have been left to gather dust on the shelves of history and been heard of no more............... but, being so enthralled and haunted by Herr Beethoven's new composition, the visitors decided to inform the world in advance of this most recent piece of pure genius. And so by this most unintended confusion, history was endowed with 'Fur Elise', and no matter how the Beethoven's tried in the coming years to eradicate what to them was a rather vulgar and commonplace name ............... it had in fact been their intention to name this piece 'The Sunlight Sonata' - nothing could shift the public from calling it by this most enigmatic of titles - Fur Elise.
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There was no frau Beethoven, he was unmarried; and "furry knees" is one of the bagatelles, not a sonata. ???
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oh gosh, and there was me trying not to be serious ;) I thought bagatelle was that game you played which involved sending a marble through a type of maze, with points scored depending on where the marble landed. ;D
heavens, you don't mean he was batting for the same side!!!
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The stern expression is where I was getting Beethoven lol.. Ingrid Glass ia a good lead but im struggling to find this example of the mold.