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Title: help identify this Stuart Crystal Decanter please
Post by: thewagster on January 10, 2018, 10:27:50 PM

Hello, - I'm new to all this.
Please help me find out about this beautiful Stuart Decanter that i just purchased at a market in NZ (where i live)
In excellent condition - and market on the base "Stuart England" with the squiggly "t"

The stopper has a mark on it - like a backward b (photo attached)

The decanter stands 13 inches tall and with the stopper is nearly 17 inches.
I would love to know the cut and its age? - it looks art nouveau to me.

Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Ian

Title: Re: help identify this Stuart Crystal Decanter please
Post by: Anne on January 11, 2018, 01:26:09 AM

Hi Ian and welcome to the board. Could you please add a straight on side view showing the whole decanter, as some of us will be struggling to visualise the whole item with it split across two photos, thanks. :)

You might want to check out the Stuart catalogue on our GlassGallery here http://www.yobunny.org.uk/glassgallery/thumbnails.php?album=938 (http://www.yobunny.org.uk/glassgallery/thumbnails.php?album=938) to see if you can find a pattern / shape match.  8)

Title: Re: help identify this Stuart Crystal Decanter please
Post by: thewagster on January 11, 2018, 02:31:22 AM

Im really struggling to make it 125kb
here goes

Title: Re: help identify this Stuart Crystal Decanter please
Post by: Anne on January 11, 2018, 03:07:16 AM

Thank you for adding the whole view, that's a great help.  8)

We have some help for resizing images in the Help etc. forum, see my TECHIE TIPS topic here: https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,34093.0.html but if you get stuck feel free to ask for help.

Title: Re: help identify this Stuart Crystal Decanter please
Post by: Paul S. on January 11, 2018, 09:27:15 AM

Hello Ian.             Quality decanters made throughout most of the C20, often have matching Nos. inscribed on both of the stopper and the flange or neck of the bottle, and most of these Nos. are made using a steel stylus of sorts and can often be difficult to find.
It is just possible that the mark on your stopper is one of the pair of these matching Nos.  -  and if you look around the neck/top of your bottle you may find the other one.             Sometimes these Nos. appear to have been applied with little care, and they aren't always easy to decypher.
Lots of lesser quality bottles are found without these matching Nos. and moulded examples also lack this feature  -  plus Nos. tend to disappear as you get back into the C19.

Have to say I don't recognize the cut pattern on your decanter  -  assuming you haven't worked it out by later today, then I'll try the Replacements.com site

Title: Re: help identify this Stuart Crystal Decanter please
Post by: ahremck on January 11, 2018, 11:57:37 AM

Looks like it is probably a Salisbury decanter, IAN

Ross

Title: Re: help identify this Stuart Crystal Decanter please
Post by: Paul S. on January 11, 2018, 04:50:45 PM

I'd suggest Ross is probably correct, though I'd disagree with Ian's thoughts about this one being art nouveau  -  the cutting on this pattern looks a tad to linear and lacking in curves - natural or otherwise - to be that particular style..................   just my opinion you understand. :)           
A very attractive decanter by the way.

Title: Re: help identify this Stuart Crystal Decanter please
Post by: thewagster on January 11, 2018, 08:49:35 PM

Thanks for your thoughts...
I'll check out the Salisbury cut...
Regards
Ian

Title: Re: help identify this Stuart Crystal Decanter please
Post by: thewagster on January 11, 2018, 08:52:38 PM

I think you're correct - it looks like a Salisbury Cut and the correct Decanter Shape.
Many Thanks :)