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Title: Murano Rooster Genuine?
Post by: Doc on February 16, 2018, 03:58:26 AM
Hi,
I picked up this rooster at auction. No sticker.
From what I've read, he seems to be genuine. The only thing missing is a pontil mark. Looking at how these figures are made though, I can see why there wouldnt be one.
Can anyone shed any light on this piece?
Thanks.
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a545/Doc_62/R_zpsq7f1dscu.jpg
Title: Re: Murano Rooster Genuine?
Post by: glassobsessed on February 16, 2018, 10:16:16 AM
Welcome to the forum.

Your rooster looks quite modern, the primary colours and splashes of aventurine make me think made in China first.

John
Title: Re: Murano Rooster Genuine?
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 16, 2018, 10:41:32 AM
That was my thought too
Title: Re: Murano Rooster Genuine?
Post by: Doc on February 16, 2018, 11:54:34 AM
hmmmm.
I had to look up aventurine but there are actually 2 types of gold coloured flecks in it.
One a flat solid that looks like gold leaf (going by pics I searched, a lot like aventurine) and a speckled gold that looks like aggregate.
I thought he looked quite old. He came from an estate auction.
I dont know much about murano so I will head the superior knowledge on this board :)
Thanks for having a look.
Title: Re: Murano Rooster Genuine?
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 16, 2018, 12:21:22 PM
Your rooster has copper aventurine and really the only thing that should be termed aventurine when talking about glass to avoid confusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldstone_(glass). It is/was used in Murano but mostly by Nason. Unfortunately the Chinese are very generous with it in their "murano" glass

Gold leaf is what normally appears in true Murano animals and their colours are also less vivid. I can't see anything that looks like gold in your rooster; I think it's just the way the aventurine shards have been worked
Title: Re: Murano Rooster Genuine?
Post by: glassobsessed on February 16, 2018, 02:14:04 PM
Another bird, this one for sale in a local charity shop, I am confident this one is Chinese judging by the Millefiori used - they are also found in Chinese made paperweights.
Title: Re: Murano Rooster Genuine?
Post by: glassobsessed on February 16, 2018, 02:25:31 PM
A feature of both these birds that is interesting is the manner in which the tails are attached.
Title: Re: Murano Rooster Genuine?
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 16, 2018, 03:09:31 PM
Hadn't noticed that John but it's not very good is it. They are just rammed on over the body
Title: Re: Murano Rooster Genuine?
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 16, 2018, 04:18:04 PM
It's not quite as amused as the first one shown is. ;)

I do have an image of a genuine Murano duck, although it is a particularly good one and a little unusual in that these ones were made for a restaurant which specialised in serving duck.
Title: Re: Murano Rooster Genuine?
Post by: Doc on February 17, 2018, 01:49:25 AM
Thanks for the replies.
There has been a fair few murano pieces go through the auction house I frequent. Hopefully the next piece I pick up will be of more interest :)
Title: Re: Murano Rooster Genuine?
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 17, 2018, 11:48:50 AM
Try to compare the quality of work in the one I showed with the others. :)
The body is nicely and correctly shaped, the colours under the bird are slightly fuzzy, to represent the downiness of feathers. The colours on the body are worked nicely, not just plonked.
You learn as you go along, and you need to be able to handle as much as possible, to learn about the feel and quality.
We all have our own mistakes and disasters. But if a piece of glass is a nice piece of glass, it doesn't matter where it comes from, it's still an original and a lovely bit of glass. And some contemporary Chinese can be stunningly lovely. :)