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Title: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: Della on March 04, 2018, 03:18:04 PM
 It is signed to the front and dated 2002. I can't decipher what is written and hoping that someone just recognises it, or the work.
Pale blue glass & lilac.
9" high x 7" wide x 1.5" deep (max)
I have rubbed cornflour into the signature, but it hasn't helped me any.
2nd photo is 1st name, 3rd is surname, I guess
Any help/ideas?  ??? ???
TIA
Della
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 04, 2018, 04:00:51 PM
Chris Lucas A Touch of Glass? perhaps  ???  8)  ;D
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: Della on March 04, 2018, 05:38:35 PM

I thought it said, Muriel  ::)
I can't see Lucas or glass in either word  :-\
I'll try to get a better picture tomorrow using Bisto powder (think I still have some in the cupboard  ;) )
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 04, 2018, 06:34:55 PM
aaaah...  ;)
(best use for it  ;D )

Chris Lucas is on the Isle of Wight, and trained at IoWSG a long time ago.
I also think IoWSG made solifleurs of a similar construction. That pushed me a bit to my liberal interpretation.
I can't see any Muriels.  ;D
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: flying free on March 04, 2018, 07:27:33 PM
Nice!!  reminds me of a perfume bottle by Pauline Solven for some reason  Perhaps the applications or something made me think of it.  Maybe an 'influenced by' piece if 2002.
Can't make anything of the signature at all - sorry.
It looks as though it belongs to an earlier period than 2002 so wonder if it was someone who'd been working with earlier makers as Sue says.

Does the last name end in len or den maybe?
(can see why you say Muriel but I don't think so ... could it read David?)

Solifleurs were a common design in German glass (probably loads in other countries as well but those spring  to mind)  Could it be a German studio maker maybe?
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: Della on March 04, 2018, 07:59:31 PM
I really can't tell what it says, M and the poor light today didn't help much.
I will try again in the morning.
The back of the piece is actually the bottom, like the reverse of the Mdina knot sculptures, the artist has then flattened and ground an original edge to make the standing base. If you get what I mean  ???

Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: flying free on March 04, 2018, 08:07:08 PM
I think I see what you mean.
So does it not stand up as a solifleur then? (apologies if I have completely got the wrong end of the stick  :-[ )
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: flying free on March 04, 2018, 08:07:53 PM
oh wait... is it a wall hanging solifleur then? or meant to be positioned against a wall?

Just to clarify what I mean about it reminding me of pieces earlier than 2002 - it's quite 'organic' in design and made me think of quite early studio pieces actually.

m
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: Della on March 04, 2018, 08:14:36 PM
No it stands up, M, where the maker has flattened, then ground the side of the item (now the bottom when standing), but I guess it was originally made on the mat, although the sides are textured.
I'll take a picture of the back in the morning and then you can see what I mean, but imagine the back of a Mdina knot, which is originally made as a flat item and then part of it is flattened to create a standing base.
Lord, the written word is so much harder than the spoken. My flipping hands are typing and wanting to make explanatory gestures at the same time   :P
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: flying free on March 04, 2018, 08:16:37 PM
yes, I've got you :)  (see my 'oh wait.. post above' )

Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 04, 2018, 08:41:24 PM
It's been made in a simlar way to a "knot", with the hot glass being poured and trailed over the marver with bits added and built up.
Possibly safest to put it standing next to a wall.  ;D
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: Della on March 04, 2018, 08:50:15 PM
It's against the back of the book case, erm my glass display shelves, Sue  ;D It's really quite steady, but with a Weimaraner running around, with a tail like a whip, it's safer  :P
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: Della on March 05, 2018, 11:22:59 AM
Just for the record, I'm rubbish with any computer programme/app  ???   8) but I've had a go.
A photo of the back for M too, as promised.
It's not helped me any.  :-X
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 05, 2018, 12:03:52 PM
I've found Muriel.  ;D But under her, it reads Della to me. ::)  8)
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: flying free on March 05, 2018, 11:10:23 PM
well I do think  Della you have a name for your sculpture - from hereon in to be known as 'Muriel' :)

She's beautiful.

We will find her creator one day!

m
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 06, 2018, 01:23:32 PM
 ;D Not to be confused with Hilda Ogden's much-loved "Muriel".
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: flying free on March 07, 2018, 09:16:22 PM
just looking at the sig again, does the last word maybe read 'Glass' ?
So something (name of maker) something (name of Studio) then Glass?
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: Della on March 07, 2018, 09:43:31 PM
It looks like the last 3 letters are lyn or last 4 letters lej? and the letter before the l looks like an a or an o, blowed if I know.
I have a huge photo on my screen and I still can't make head nor tails of it.  :-\
If I din't keep seeing Muriel for the first word .............. (and not Hildas, Sue,  ;D ;D )
Thanks for keeping looking though, M, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: Della on July 25, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
And the signature belongs to, Amanda Brisbane.  ;D
Title: Re: Impossible Signature On 2.2kg Sculpture/Bud Vase Help
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 25, 2018, 02:47:44 PM
Well done, Della. I should have known that one too. There's a bit about her in my little Graham McLaren book on Studio Glass and I have seen a few large casts she has done. She does sand casting and kiln work. Big, statement pieces.  ;D
The booklet doesn't say much about her at all, there is just an illustration of a large sand cast by her, in the section about "Casting and kiln working".
You might be interested to knopw that the other artists' work used to illustrate this section are David Reekie, John Cook, Liz Lowe, Colin Reid, Tiws Johnson, Maggie Hilton, Ros Conway and Diana Hobson.
Amanda Brisbane is in some very good company there. ;)