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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: PaulFitz on March 22, 2018, 06:35:00 AM
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Hi,can anyone help on 3 Stuart glasses i have.I thought they were the Tamara pattern but the foot is different{please see photo}Can`t imagine why every part of the pattern looks to be Tamara except the foot.Mine have 2 cut rings.
Also any idea what they would have been used for.
They measure 17 cms tall and hold just under 300ml.
Lastly,does anyone know of start and finishing dates of the manufacture of these.
Any help would be really appreciated.
Thanks,Paul.
Just noticed after posting the photos that the Stuartmark is not showing that it has the "squiggly" tail.
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ignore my post, sorry, I missed the part where you said about the two cut rings on the foot, Cannot find a way to delete my post, modifying instead.
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They are ale glasses from the 1930's, you can see developments in the patterns right up to when Stuart closed, these two have hints of the Elgin pattern with airtwist stems just a bit taller than yours. would of had a jug and prob 4-6 glasses. regards Chris.
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Hi Chris,thank you for that info.With my glasses only holding 300ml they were certainly civil drinkers in the 30`s.
Unfortunately no sign of a jug,just the 3 were found.
Strangely enough,here in Australia at the pub you can buy a cold jug of beer and get the amount of glasses you need which are quite small.Not checked but they could be around 300-330ml.
Cheers Paul.
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This made me smile in a recent newspaper add, guess were all getting greedy.
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I am around 2005.Half a bottle of wine(350ml) into a Iittala Kekkerit glass which i have to make last the whole night,which is hard work.
Cheers!
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In my Stuart Catalog under Tamara pattern - that style of glass is not as uncouth as a beer glass - it is an Iced Tea glass in the diagram and it held 12.5 ozs / 345 mls of liquid. Oh I just noticed the full specifications page calls it Iced Tea or Shandy.
Ross
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Hi Ross,
i have filled these right to the top and they hold exactly 280 ml.Not sure how glass sizes are determined but 250ml/10oz is 10mm down from the top of the rim.Cheers.
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This is the relevant catalogue page, Paul.
Careful reading shows a somewhat larger Fruit Juice(than the illustration)is 10oz / 280mls capacity and is 6.75" / 172mms tall. So definitely not a mundane Beer/Ale glass
Ross
PS The catalog page is only 103KB and should blow up to readable size if you copy it and then open in a normal photo display program like MS Office Picture Manager or
similar.
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Hi Ross,
thank you so much for sending the info.The difference i see with the iced tea glass is that the shape looks totally different to the ones i have.The ice tea glass looks like the bowl finishes right at the foot with no stem.Mine finishes like the goblet shown.
By the way,i must say they look and feel absolutely great in the hand.
Cheers again,Paul.
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From a previous catalogue page by Chris,maybe they could be a fruit drink glass which is mentioned in the headline.
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That's the catalogue for the modernish 60's pattern it does not have an air twist stem just slice cuts, if you google it you will see. If you look at the top of the page I have shown you it tells you what they are.
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Not so Bruce here is the photo page of the catalog I have showing Tamara. Lo and behold it does have stem cuts.
Ross
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My mistake Ross I thought the original post were airtwists like mine Regards Chris.
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Chris I think the only series made with Air twist stems was Ariel. Here are the pages from my catalog.
Ross
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There are at least 10 air twist patterns I know of Ross by Stuart plus all the unknown ones, some using the same blank shape as the one you have shown, my favourite is Alexandra clear it's Stunning and must of been one of the most expensive as it hardly ever turns up I have a set of goblets in that pattern.
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I have only seen Ariel once in 35 years here in Australia. So its no wonder I thought it the only one.
Ross
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Another variation on the Tamara theme.
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The OP was also made in green i saw a pair signed today and i'm confident they were uranium.
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though obviously not impossible, I'd suggest that would be exceptional - I used to collect a lot of this stuff late 1920s onward, and never once found uranium in Stuart drinking glasses, bowls or whatever shape - plenty of items in green glass, but never got a reaction with the u.v. torch.
I'd be really keen to see anything from Stuart, from that period, in uranium. It occurred to me often to wonder why Stuart didn't seem to do uranium green, when so many contemporaries did.
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They were £30 quid each in a small antique shop opposite Shrewsbury antique centre today. I'm not buying them at that price to prove a point.
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;D ;D quite right too, and I shall be in Norfolk today, so wrong direction for me. But it's true that over many years when collecting green Stuart pieces - and I suspect they were mostly Woodchester and Stratford designs of some sort of shape - I never encountered a uranium green, and I must have seen scores in green. Just never understood why they didn't make the stuff when others did.
Suspect that the price reflects the fact that Stuart drinking glasses, in ordinary green, are scarce - almost always they are in clear.
So - request please to all who may read this - does anyone have a piece of Stuart, in uranium green - presumably from between the two WW. :)