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Title: Blue trumpet vase with prunts. ID = Tiroler Glashütte, Kramsach
Post by: glassobsessed on April 07, 2018, 05:47:29 PM

This seems so familiar but no luck so far finding another, it is 14cm tall with a polished pontil mark, some wear.

Any ideas?

John

Title: Arts and Crafts purple glass historicist vase. ID = Tiroler Glashütte, Kramsach
Post by: JOK on October 26, 2020, 10:08:51 AM

Looks like a historicist design, the type Powell was doing, but I understand Stuart and all the other main Stourbridge factories did similar designs. The purple colour is like a Stuart colour maybe. Any ideas?

Title: Re: Arts and Crafts purple glass historicist vase
Post by: glassobsessed on October 26, 2020, 08:29:50 PM

Sadly not a clue but I did have this blue example:
Mod: see new initial post in this merged thread,

John

Title: Re: Arts and Crafts purple glass historicist vase
Post by: flying free on October 27, 2020, 08:25:26 PM

Your vase is by Wolfgang von Wersin according to this listing by the Dorotheum auction house in Vienna.  There is a source reference on that listing. It was also made in this glorious chartreuse yellow colour:

'Wolfgang von Wersin, a bowl and a knob vase, Tiroler Glashütte, Kramsach, 1924, distributed by DeWe AG
Lot No. 139-098396/0002  03.10.2018 - 15:00'



https://www.dorotheum.com/en/l/5703811/

m

Title: Re: Blue trumpet vase with prunts. ID = Tiroler Glashütte, Kramsach
Post by: KevinH on October 30, 2020, 12:45:33 AM

Mod: Thread tidied up.

However, M mentions:

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It was also made in this glorious chartreuse yellow colour:

Have I missed, or messed up, something while tidying things? I have seen no yellow example in the Dorotheum listing or in either of the now-merged threads.

Title: Re: Blue trumpet vase with prunts. ID = Tiroler Glashütte, Kramsach
Post by: glassobsessed on October 30, 2020, 11:33:28 AM

Fabulous flying free thank you, when searching I found several designs with prunts but never this one. The obvious mistake I made was failing to search for vase with knobs, I was of course all over vase with knops. :D

An image solely of the yellow example from the auction here:
https://www.dorotheum.com/fileadmin/lot-images/39G200420/normal/wolfgang-von-wersin-eine-schale-und-eine-noppenvase-tiroler-glashuette-kramsach-1924-vertrieb-dewe-ag-a-6685041.jpg

John

Title: Re: Blue trumpet vase with prunts. ID = Tiroler Glashütte, Kramsach
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 30, 2020, 12:25:01 PM

You haven't really missed anything Kev- it is showing very green because of the uranium - the base colour is definitely yellow.
I try not to think about the colours of Chartreuse. I swallowed half a bottle of it when I was 12 and I was not very well afterwards. 

Title: Re: Blue trumpet vase with prunts. ID = Tiroler Glashütte, Kramsach
Post by: flying free on October 30, 2020, 06:07:19 PM

Some information on Chartreuse yellow (1840 if I read correctly)
https://www.chartreuse.fr/en/histoire/history-of-the-chartreuse-liqueurs/

Hex #dfff00 and apparently pantone 2297C although personally I think it is more 2299C on this chart
https://www.colourdirect.nl/pantone-pms-solid-chips-coated-pagina-200c.html


John it's knoppen :)  I think based on a krautstrunk:

https://ancientglass.wordpress.com/3b-museums-glass-collections-and-exhibitions/the-cloisters-museum-and-gardens-in-northern-manhattan/s-krautstrunk-glass-beaker-germany-or-the-netherlands-1480-1510/

Title: Re: Blue trumpet vase with prunts. ID = Tiroler Glashütte, Kramsach
Post by: glassobsessed on October 31, 2020, 02:22:27 PM

Quite, it was described in the Dorotheum auction as a "knob vase".

Title: Re: Blue trumpet vase with prunts. ID = Tiroler Glashütte, Kramsach
Post by: flying free on October 31, 2020, 02:59:40 PM

 hilarious, that's tickled me -  I really needed to laugh out loud today   ;D