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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Belgium and the Netherlands Glass => Topic started by: Yen on April 12, 2018, 07:41:26 PM
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Dear experts, your assistance will be highly appreciated.
A couple of days ago I have got a beautiful antique VSL green crystal vase.
After preliminary internet investigation I have discovered that the same vase has been already sold, and in its description mentioned that the model from VSL crystal catalogue 1908. But I would like to know it definitely.
Does anybody can help me on the matter?
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Hello Yen and welcome to the board. There is a copy of the 1908 catalogue on eBay currently, which has scans of several pages, one of which appears to show your vase. See what you think: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cristalleries-du-Val-Saint-Lambert-1904-1908-catalog-cut-engraved-glass-Belgium-/221221033082
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Anne, thank you very much for your prompt reaction!
This scan I have seen before. The form of vase is the same but cutting ornament is different. In the description of the sold vase the number 2948/17 is mentioned. I suppose that on the next page of VSL catalogue 1908 this model is indicated. Unfortunately I can not find them in the libruary. :(
Nevertheless, I appreciate your kind assistance.
Best regards, Yen
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Dag Yen en welkom,
The number you mentioned is not the number of this model, but the less flaired version (see image of the vase with the same pattern).
Your vase with this pattern does not show in the reprint of the 1908 catalogue and not on the next page either ;), but the model is called Rivoli, the model number is 3860/17 and the pattern is registered as 3247/17. It was a very popular pattern, also called in French 'Taille Riche' and can be found on all sorts of items, from vases and bowls to stemware and decanters...
Perhaps you came across it on my page, that has now been rectified.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/510525307739213617/ (https://www.pinterest.com/pin/510525307739213617/)
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Anne, thank you very-very much! You make my happy! :)
This is really the vase what I have now.
I appreciate all the affords and participation in resolving of my question.
Regards, Yen
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No problem. :)
Unfortunately this style is not the most popular at the moment, and the 'Taille Riche' pieces are difficult to sell, but personally I prefer this period. The cutting is more precise, the glass of better quality and in this colour always very effective.
Having said that, if you're not thinking about selling, it might be the right time to get another vase in the same colour, as it is, in my opinion, always more effective to have a pair, on a mantle (schouw) or sideboard.
There are a few on Ebay at the moment and Tweedehands.be and as they're not selling, you could discuss the price a bit.
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Very useful information, thanks.
I've got in touch with VSL for the first time in my life. That is why the opinion of more experienced people is of great value.
Because I'm the beginner in this field, I'm interested to know about average price range. All listings being placed on above said sites give me a price indication round 250 euro. I'm surprised: is the average price on the item so high?
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It depends, but you are showing a different model (vase Vénitienne) now which is much larger.
How tall is your vase?
[Mod: image showing the "different model" has been removed by Yen as it contravened Board Policy on use of 3rd party images.]
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Just made a measurement of my vase: 30.5 cm high and 10 cm max width on the top.
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Re the price you mentioned, you shouldn't pay more then half of that. Be careful though, the image you've just removed is a different model with the same pattern. Send me a PM if you're not sure and I'll keep an eye out for you as well, if I come across anything.
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At the end I'd like to bring my special thanks for Anne Tique for her patience, kindness, knowledge and support.
The topic is over.