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Title: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: Anne E.B. on June 30, 2018, 03:26:27 PM
Any ideas about this one would be much appreciated.  The interior is frosted.  No maker's mark seen but there is a great deal of wear on the base, so I'm assuming it is quite old, possibly 50s 60s. ???
I thought it might possibly be Italian.  Quite heavy at 1600g, nearly 8.5" diameter and thick walled. 
Many thanks :)
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: Anne E.B. on April 15, 2020, 12:49:47 PM
Just giving this a little bump ;)
I've continued to research it, but haven't found a similar one yet two years later.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated to expand my search.  :)
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: LEGSY on April 17, 2020, 03:31:53 PM
 :)Purely from a viewpoint it looks full of style very nice quality wish i owned it 8)
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: glassobsessed on April 18, 2020, 08:35:26 AM
A vague Krosno or LSA, could be, maybe, sort of...

John
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: Anne E.B. on April 21, 2020, 08:30:22 AM
Many thanks for your replies and for the suggestions :-*  I'll certainly check them out.
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: flying free on April 22, 2020, 11:07:45 AM
John do you not think that might be a Murano bowl?  I know it has the frosted interior but shape and finish and base made me think Murano?

m
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: glassobsessed on April 23, 2020, 06:41:38 PM
Could be, just realised how big it is, bit of a beast.
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: Anne E.B. on April 25, 2020, 02:25:32 PM
Just for interest, here's the bowl alongside my Carlo Moretti pencil vases.  I'm not suggesting the bowl is one of his, but don't they look good together.  :)
I love the colour! I'll certainly pursue the Murano suggestion.
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 25, 2020, 04:03:32 PM
As we're at the point of throwing ideas around :) I'll add my one and only thought.
It was from my guts, and I take no responsibility for them. ::)
It's round, big, heavy, solid glass and unusually satinated.
Vizner?
https://markhillpublishing.com/frantisek-vizner-a-major-exhibition/
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: flying free on April 25, 2020, 04:52:19 PM
ooh Sue - great suggestion!

After you said that I had a quick look and did find this one with what I think is a matt interior:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Frantisek_vizner,_ciotola,_1990-2000_ca.jpg
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 25, 2020, 06:01:13 PM
I've been looking for things the same shape, and found this toffee coloured bowl;

http://difratellifatto.com.br/destinomilano/frantisek-vizner
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: Anne E.B. on April 25, 2020, 06:39:35 PM
Oooh thanks very much folks!  It never occurred to me that it could possibly be Czech.
Following your suggestions/links, I came across this described as "sandblasted and polished".  The size is larger than mine, but looks very similar.
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/en-gb/item/1315273_302-frantisek-vizner-czechoslovakia-grey-blue-bowl-o
And this private collection which shows Vizner's bowls in different colours https://www.picuki.com/media/2102390040882541368
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 25, 2020, 06:58:16 PM
There's a blue one towards the back in the second link...

Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: glassobsessed on April 26, 2020, 10:42:45 AM
Sorry to be a churlish kill joy but I just don't see 'Vizner' in Anne's bowl, it somehow lacks the spark of creativity you expect from Vizner.
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: flying free on April 26, 2020, 10:55:28 AM
my hesitations are re the side on picture where:
-  the bowl profile looks too deep and too rounded rather than 'sweeping' curved outwards if you know what I mean
-  the 'bowl' dip interior in the centre looks too deep and too much like it follows the outer curve of the bowl for depth and shape
- For some reason, the colour blue but that's just my instinctive thoughts rather than based on anything I could substantiate

The Vizner bowls don't appear symmetrical like this, they appear to have thicker outer walls and a different curve shape with a shallower inner 'bowl' dip in the centre.

That said, there are similarities especially with frosted centre and the quality of the bowl looks fab.

m

Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 26, 2020, 01:18:33 PM
I wasn't that sure! The profile of the bowl in question is rounder and deeper, and I didn't find the pics blew up enough to see the absolute quality, I had to sort of guess at that.
It is a quality piece, but like the others commenting, I'm not sure it has quite the outstanding stunning-ness of these later Vizner masterpieces.
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: Anne E.B. on September 06, 2020, 07:32:52 PM
I've just come across another identical bowl.  I was hoping I'd be nearer to knowing the maker as I spotted the remnants of a  label underneath.  No such luck, except it might eliminate a lot of possibilities as the label had a bar code and I could just make out "DECORATIVE BOWL".  So, it might be newer than I thought although I'm not too sure when bar codes were introduced into the UK.  It looks like a pretty generic high street shop label, what's left of it any way, and the bowl is possibly mass produced.....   
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: flying free on September 06, 2020, 08:03:05 PM
For some weird reason IVIMA Portugal has come into my mind.  Is it because John has recently id''d another geode bowl from them and I've clicked on the thread in the last few days?


Anyway it might be worth a look because I now think there might be previous bowls on the board made in Portugal. For some reason I think I once owned a green one.


m
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: flying free on September 06, 2020, 09:38:05 PM
After a quick look, they all seem to have distinct layers.  Maybe not Ivima then Anne.
Title: Re: Blue geode bowl with frosted interior.
Post by: Anne E.B. on September 07, 2020, 06:24:26 AM
I think I must have had one of those layered geode bowls in the past and just assumed it was Italian.  I've never heard of Ivima in Portugal before until reading recent postings. 
Hopefully I'll find another one with a complete label :) :-*