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Title: Ribbed Engraved Bird Vase ID
Post by: Penelope12 on October 02, 2018, 09:08:34 AM
Hi all,

Any ideas on the ID of this vase please, I’m assuming that it’s Scandinavian, but I’m no expert. It stands at just over 4” inches tall, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks penny
Title: Re: Ribbed Engraved Bird Vase ID
Post by: Anne E.B. on October 02, 2018, 09:24:45 AM
Possibly Orrefors ???  It looks like Edward Hald's bird of paradise vase, but not sure about the shape.  He signed his with the letter H.     
Hopefully someone will know for sure.
Title: Re: Ribbed Engraved Bird Vase ID
Post by: Penelope12 on October 05, 2018, 02:08:52 PM
Thanks Anne, looks like it is definitely the bird of paradise, but still no idea what the signature says.  ;D
Title: Re: Ribbed Engraved Bird Vase ID
Post by: glassobsessed on October 05, 2018, 03:28:41 PM
Something along the lines: first letters o and f, abbreviated version of Orrefors. Then H for designer Hald and pattern number (maybe) 8211. The following squiggles are probably the engravers signature.

John
Title: Re: Ribbed Engraved Bird Vase ID
Post by: SveziaJonas on October 05, 2018, 04:35:51 PM
Hello,

It is Orrefors H2245 from 1940.
H=Hald

Kind regards
Jonas
Title: Re: Ribbed Engraved Bird Vase ID
Post by: Penelope12 on October 05, 2018, 04:51:45 PM
Wow! Never realised it was as early as that. Many thanks for all your help.  ;D
Penny
Title: Re: Ribbed Engraved Bird Vase ID
Post by: SveziaJonas on October 05, 2018, 04:57:59 PM
If you can get better image of the letters at right, it will say A or B something and a number, thats the real year of production
Title: Re: Ribbed Engraved Bird Vase ID
Post by: SveziaJonas on October 07, 2018, 02:25:13 PM
Here is one earlier, a small one from Nils Landberg with same bird.

Of N 1855.
Title: Re: Ribbed Engraved Bird Vase ID
Post by: KevinH on October 09, 2018, 12:38:40 AM
Just out of interest, in Scandinavia, is "bird of paradise" another name for the Phoenix?

The bird, with its long swan-type neck and fiery crest is very much Phoenix-like and "birds of paradise" as I know them do not have those features.
Title: Re: Ribbed Engraved Bird Vase ID
Post by: Penelope12 on October 09, 2018, 11:22:14 AM
Thank you Jonas,

I have tried to take a better photo of the signature and also a picture next to a similar vase or toothpick holder which stands only 2.5” inches tall (no signature). I was planning to sell, but they go so well together I think I will just have to hang on to them for a little bit longer.  ;D Any info on the second vase/toothpick holder would also be much appreciated.

Many thanks penny
Title: Re: Ribbed Engraved Bird Vase ID
Post by: SveziaJonas on October 09, 2018, 07:06:14 PM
Hello,
Not easy to see what it says..

The other vase is hard to id but if you search for Orrefors L1373.
Same motiv but on a flakong.

Nice objects..:)


About the name "Paradisfågel" I think it refers to birds from New Guinea and Australia.
That is what I get on Google, they looks like the engraved birds to.
Title: Re: Ribbed Engraved Bird Vase ID
Post by: Penelope12 on October 11, 2018, 08:50:41 AM
Thank you. I did a bit more 'Googling' and found the flakong along with a couple of other ribbed vases with different designs.