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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: kwqd on January 19, 2019, 12:41:42 PM
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The mushroom is about 4.75" high and the spindle is about 4.5" high. Both have smooth tops and textured bodies, but the bottom of the spindle is smooth as is the bottom of the mushroom cap. The cavity in the mushroom is about 3.75" deep and in the spindle about 3.5" deep.
Both Blenko and Kosta Boda made mushroom shaped candle holders and Finnish maker Iittala has similar spindle candle holders in their Festivo line designed by Timo Sarpeneva in the 1960s, but none I can find by any maker have such a deep cavity. All of the others I can find have a cavity just deep enough to accommodate a candle securely. The cavities in these are so deep that I wonder if they might be dual purpose candle holders and bud vases. That being said, there is not much room for a significant amount of water in either cavity.
There is a surprising similarity between some of Blenko and Kosta Boda's products, but neither have anything with this deep cavity. Does anyone know who made these? I am grouping them together because I have the same questions about both and they may be by the same maker. They were found separately, the mushroom recently and the spindle a few years ago. I also recently found a couple of heavy UFO shaped crystal candle holders (not shown) that remind me of these, though they are only about an inch thick.
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There are "fake" Sarpaneva Festivo candlesticks out there, and I suspect you've found one of those.
The moulding is not nearly so crisp, the details are more muted, it's far more symmetrical, the glass itself is more yellow. I don't know if we know who made the lookalikes.
I don't know anything about your other bit, which, while I understand why you posted both together given the nature of your question, it would really be best to have each in their own thread. I don't think they're related at all.
The discussions can get confusing when there is more than one item illustrated.
Don't worry about it! :)
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Thanks! The spindle is of noticeably poorer quality than the mushroom, much lighter glass and poor clarity. I've seen more of these around, but none with the deep cavity. Agree they are knock offs.
The mushroom is heavier and better made. It has been a while since I have searched for images of this one and just found some very similar ones with a Japan label that the seller on Etsy says are from the 1960s. The Esty shrooms are only 3.5" high, though.
I am usually a proponent of one item per post/image, but just trying to kill two birds with one stone as these are not super interesting pieces.
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The images with the Japan label are presumably not yours? If so they will need to be removed from the board - our policy doesn't permit the posting of images that are copyright of others without their explicit consent. You can post a link to the website where you found the images instead.
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;D
I find the mushroom ones much more interesting than the knock-off. I've not seen those around at all.
You've taught me something, I can knock-off for the rest of the day now. ;D
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Thanks. Regarding the images, I'll contact the seller and see if they will give me permission to use them. I've found so many bad links on this web site, that I try to avoid using links whenever possible. Use of links really decreases the usefulness of the site for reference purposes.
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It's a legal matter for the board because of copyright.
We always prefer images which are owned by the person who posts them, and like them posted directly to the board, rather than hosted elsewhere, because images elsewhere do vanish.
But it is difficult when you need to illustrate something and don't have an example in your possession to show.
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Totally understand. I have a masters in library and information science, so understand copyright, fair use, etc. I sent the Etsy seller an email requesting permission to use their images. I also mentioned that I would include a link to their auction, which would benefit them. If they don't respond today, I'll remove the images. If they give permission, would the board want me to forward their email?
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A direct link to the sale would have been fine. :)
That way the copyright is still with the owner, and they get the bonus of a bit of advertising.
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Eventually, though, it will just become another bad link. I have no issues with getting permission to use the images. The style of the label may some day aid in identifying the maker.
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If you are willing to go to those lengths, it would be very much appreciated. ;D
Is is only really fair for the seller to get a little bit of publicity for providing them. :)
I don't think we've got too many examples of Japanese labels yet.
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Thanks for your understanding, and we share your frustration re bad and broken links. If you can gain permission from the seller that would be super, thank you. Selling sites images often vanish after a while which does leave us in the soup. One of the ways we have tried to address this is by creating albums of labels from sources which have given their consent to use them and we archive these onto our sister site GlassGallery (http://www.glassphotographs.com/). You will also find various collections based on areas of interest where members have been collecting and curating images on a theme, as ongoing works in progress. You are most welcome to get involved in this if you'd like to do so.
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The seller on Etsy gave permission to use the images shown earlier in this thread. Here is a link to the auction:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/501530056/crystal-glass-mushroom-design-taper
I will send a link to this thread to the seller and add an image with label to the appropriate album.
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It's a separate registration on there so I'll need to authorise you when you sign up (otherwise we get loads of non-GMB people trying to sign up and that's not what it's for) - so if you use the same username as on here I'll know it's you and approve you straight away.
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OK you're in. :) If you get stuck using the gallery look at the help and how to walk through's at the top of the screen and if you get really stuck use the contact technical support link there and it'll email you and I'll come and help.
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Thanks Anne! I have also have a masters in computer science and worked in IT for 25 years before retiring, so didn't have a problem getting it done. I added it to the Japanese Labels folder of the Labels, Marks and Signatures folder, since we know it is a Japanese label, even though we don't know the maker.
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That's great, thank you, and glad you're OK with the gallery. :)