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Title: Heavy Murano or Scand or Brit vase?
Post by: createdbear on May 28, 2019, 10:13:52 PM
Hello,
Can anyone ID this vase for me please?
It weighs over a kilo and has a perfectly round polished pontil in its base (similar to the Whitefriars type). I don't think it's Whitef but am not aware of any of Italian makers who did these round polished ponts although it is very Sommerso in its appearance. One of those that could be Ital, Scand or Brit. Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: Heavy Murano or Scand or Brit vase?
Post by: catshome on May 29, 2019, 02:07:05 AM
Hmmm......Vicke Lindstrand, or Orrefors, and Strombergshyttan all spring to mind.  Can we have some measurements please?

Thanks
Cat
Title: Re: Heavy Murano or Scand or Brit vase?
Post by: glassobsessed on May 29, 2019, 06:40:58 AM
What looks like the same vase in the same colour is shown on page 11 of Scandinavian Glass Fire & Sea, that one is around 18cm tall and made by Smalandshyttan, my guess at designer would be Josef Schott.

John
Title: Re: Heavy Murano or Scand or Brit vase?
Post by: The Glass Staircase on May 29, 2019, 07:14:15 AM
I have a similar vase which I thought was Orrefors. Mines has a flat polished base though. Does your vase have the same sides as the second picture I have posted?
Title: Re: Heavy Murano or Scand or Brit vase?
Post by: createdbear on May 29, 2019, 09:52:59 AM
Cat, the vase is 13.5 cm tall and 12 cm at the widest point & the base is 6.5 cm wide (from point to point). Staircase, yes, it is exactly the same.
Title: Re: Heavy Murano or Scand or Brit vase?
Post by: createdbear on May 29, 2019, 10:14:16 AM
John, I wonder if Smal. made a large and small version of the vase. I guess the main clue here would be the pontil on the base. So perfectly circular. Do you know if they had the round cut on the base of their wares?
Title: Re: Heavy Murano or Scand or Brit vase?
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 29, 2019, 11:02:58 AM
A perfectly circular polished mark would indicate quality, it is a work intensive thing to do, but not any particular maker.
Loads and loads of different makers did/do it. :)
Title: Re: Heavy Murano or Scand or Brit vase?
Post by: Lustrousstone on May 29, 2019, 01:14:09 PM
A polished pontil mark in an already polished base indicates that the pontil rod broke off too deeply to finish with a flat base without taking too much off. Quite common and not poor practice
Title: Re: Heavy Murano or Scand or Brit vase?
Post by: createdbear on May 29, 2019, 06:18:21 PM
Well, been Googling again this afternoon and found one the same but with a red inner...Josef Schott for Smalandshyttan! The website was a glass based sales website (I won't reveal the name) but it was a site I hadn't heard of. Going now...Emmerdale is on...I wonder if Annie Sugden ever kept the blue Riimaki Pablo vase that was in her kitchen years ago!
Title: Re: Heavy Murano or Scand or Brit vase?
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 29, 2019, 06:27:09 PM
  :) Why not "reveal the name"?  ;D
We're all interested in glass here, so if somebody's selling it, we might like to know - and the publicity is a nice "thanks" for information you got from looking at their website and it also means we can check the source of the information to see how accurate it is.  ;D
Links to places which show glass are fine to post.

But images should not be taken from another site and posted, that would get us into copyright trouble.
Title: Re: Heavy Murano or Scand or Brit vase?
Post by: createdbear on May 29, 2019, 07:16:32 PM
Hello Chopin,
The vase is on a website called Kunsthandel & Galerie. There is also another on Picclick...that one is a pinkish colour. Sorry for not revealing only I thought it was against the rules. I know now for future postings. I entered Josef Schott Smalandshyttan glass vase and they came up on the images.
Title: Re: Heavy Murano or Scand or Brit vase?
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 29, 2019, 07:27:20 PM
Don't worry about it.  ;D
It's just "pinched" images we can't have. Links to the original source are absolutely fine.
You have managed to attach the photos you do own directly and properly, and for that we are very grateful. :)

Title: Re: Heavy Murano or Scand or Brit vase?
Post by: catshome on May 29, 2019, 08:38:40 PM
Could you please post a link to the kunstandel &  galerie site, as I tried unsuccessfully to find it through Google. 

Did it have a vase the same height as yours with a label, or signature, or did they show a catalogue page/book reference to support the attribution to Josef Schott?

It would be helpful if we can include a confirmed attribution here, as I think this thread might grow given the number of similar unsigned pieces. 

To avoid confusion, is yours the one listed today on eBay?

Thanks
Cat