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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: AndreaA1 on June 03, 2019, 04:59:02 AM
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Hello!
I picked this marvelous vase up at my local thrift shop, and am wondering whether it is a 'Roma' vase by Rudolph Schrotter? I have not been able to locate another vase like it, but the ashtray in the Roma pattern appears to be a direct match.
The vase measures slightly over 8" high and 6" wide
I appreciate any assistance from anyone knowledgeable in Czech glass. Thank you!
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I'm happy to have found a post where a lovely "Roma" ashtray is identified by Marcus... but I have yet to be able to locate a vase in the same pattern. Can anyone assist?
Link to the previous discussion and photo here: https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,16120.msg95397.html#msg95397 (https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,16120.msg95397.html#msg95397)
Much appreciated!
Andrea
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Page 16 of the pre '58 catalogue shows a vase 12540 @ 30 cm/12" but it doesn't have the added rim like on your vase. I'm afraid I don't know much about this type of glass so I'm not the best person to help you out, but maybe somebody will spot it.
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the similarity of this vase to the basic shape and pattern of item 12540 in the catalogue is striking - though there are differences as mentioned by Anne - the absence of a short top rim and, in the catalogue, there appears to be a short foot rim.
However, the same catalogue page also shows another example in this pattern, No. 12449, with a height of 200mm (c. 8 inches).
Unfortunately this shorter model has curved sides, so is not a match, but I mention this because the smaller example does have a top rim and a much smaller foot rim than the larger vase.
Bearing in mind the closeness of the overall appearance, is it possible that some of this pattern were produced in a slightly non-standard design.
I don't see this pattern in Mark Hill's book, and I could be missing it, but don't see a pattern 'name' on the catalogue page.
Looking at Pamela Wessendorf's 'glasspavillon' site, there is another unrelated but vaguely similar vase from Inwald, and here also there are substantial 'lobes' - so Schrotter must have had a thing about such designs.
This is a great looking vase and a v.g. find.
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I agree with Paul, i's a good looking piece. I'm thinking, it looks sort of structured, almost roman like 🙄 the penny dropped a few minutes later...sorry, not the sharpest knife in the drawer at the moment here.
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Oh I had a good chuckle from your post, Anne ;D- it's true that with the straight columns it really is aptly named.
Thank you to both you and Paul taking the time to dig a little for me. I will re-review what material I have here with your comments in mind, and see where it leads.
My interest had already been piqued re: Czech glass, but this piece in particular has cemented it and the collection grows daily... Which is a problem since my living room is already looking like the United Nations' glassworks... Scandinavia on one wall, Canada on another, a shelf for the US, another for the Brits, a bit of Italy in a corner...(!) :o