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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: keith on June 11, 2019, 01:39:17 PM
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7.25 inches tall, 8.5 wide, lots of wear, frosted to the base and under the 'plate' no marks, any ideas please ? ;D
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Hollow stem?
It looks as if it belongs with those old (Edwardian?) frosted plates you used to see around, and less frequently, wine coolers
I'm amazed something of this structure has survived this long! Rather an exciting find. ;D
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Thanks Sue, I really can't tell if it's hollow, it's very heavy so maybe solid ;D
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You could see the air bubble inside the stem if blown (I wondered too). Keith, I bet you would have seen one if their was one, then again we are all getting just that bit older...
John
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Hello John, yes getting older by the minute, my new glasses will be arriving soon ! Stems with bubbles , from what I've seen, sometimes get bits of grime trapped inside this is very clean and clear so I'm sticking with solid, until the new spec's arrive that is ::) ;D ;D
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I'm pretty sure it looks like it is hollow. It might just be your stunning photography introducing an appearance that is unreal. ;D
I'll share the popcorn with John until your new glasses arrive. :)
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Well I'd been staring at it for the last 5 min's when I decided to look at the top of the stem and yes it's hollow ::) maybe I should ask the optician to rush through the glasses ! ;D ;D
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It was the base and the top parts of the stem I was looking at - there's room for a decent bubble in either end. It all flares out nicely. In cut but solid stems, the base and top parts are normally smaller and counld'nt (all the right letters and punctuation - not necessarily in the right order ;D ) accomodate a bubble. And if they're properly sealed they won't let dirt in.
The weight comes from the thick "bowl" part. It looks very top heavy and I'm reallly amazed it's survived as long as it has.
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How about Molineaux Webb? This is just a quick example of why I think it might be
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Molineaux-amp-Webb-Cut-Crystal-COMPOTE-c-1860-Cranberry-Greek-Key-Antique-Comport-/222725207584?nma=true&si=o1Se6K%252BtLsFY%252FqjzM8%252BJZ7aE1uA%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
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Did wonder about them, ta ;D Chris wondered if it had been cut down from a bowl like that one ::) ;D
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The stem is completely different. It's shorter and a different shape. Sturdier too, for the heavier top.
It there any evidence that yours might have been cut down, Keith? If it had been done a long time ago, as a repair/rescue endeavour, the work would have been fairly crude. Not up to the repair standards that can be achieved nowadays. Repairs were carried out - but using techniques such as drilling delicate holes in the glass and attaching metal staples - labour intensive but very crude.
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It was just a quick thought based on the cut foot, airtrap stem, and frosted top, as OP didn't mention having already considered Molineaux and Webb.
I'll try and dig out the Victorian glass books.
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Still can't decide with this one ::) ;D ;D