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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Not-a-Clue on June 13, 2019, 03:06:05 PM
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Hello all. I am new here but can anyone help me identify the following glassware please? I have search and searched online but no joy. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks :)
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Hi and welcome. :)
I'm going to ask a moderator to remove a couple of your images here and just leave the two of the one glass behind. And ask you to start another thread for the other glass, please?
Each piece deserves its own discussion and we cen get muddled talking about more than one item.
Don't worry about it at all.
The second glass is a "Lady Hamilton" Pall Mall champagne coup.
https://www.20cglass.co.uk/history/pall-mall-glass/
I don't know what the first one is and I suspect it is quite a different sort of beast. Perhaps, as we know what that one is Lady Hamilton, you should start another thread with the other wineglass. :)
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Thank you so much. :)
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Hi, I have looked at the Pall Mall Lady Hamilton and the etching on the base of the bowl is quite different even though the top etching is the same. Could this be an earlier or later piece?
Thanks
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:) Is it? I can't really see. :-[ (I'm ancient with failing eyesight and lousy glasses)
Have you read the article? - it might explain a bit more - that it was probably produced in different places, that could easily explain minor differences - or if one company was copying another, a slight difference might have been enough for it not to have been disputed.
There might be somebody else here who know more about this sort of thing than I do. I just recognised these. Cold-worked glass (etched or cut) isn't really an area I know or understand. :-[
Do the very good photographs in this link help any?
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Lady-Hamilton-Pall-Mall-set-6-etched-glass-champagne-coupes/153517622135?hash=item23be5d0377:g:65YAAOSwIlhc-j1a
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Hi, yes, the link you just sent has photos depicting the same glass, I have looked at some other listings on the net and I am confident that you are correct. Thank you so much for your help and advice, I am always a little skeptical about eBay listings as the platform can be a bit of an echo chamber at times.
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I did not doubt that particular seller, he's a member here. :)
But you are absolutely correct to doubt attributions which are not properly backed up with evidence. ;D
We do our best to find it here. We don't give up. :)
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Yes, so I see. I am amazed so far. As my username suggests... 'Not a clue' about glassware but am keen to learn.
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We were all completely clueless once.
Over the last 20 years, I've learned exactly how clueless I am and how much there is to still learn. It just gets bigger, but it's loads of fun. ;D
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Interesting reading that article, it suggests that this etched version is later in date that the cut and etched version.
The two for comparison:
John
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It helps tons to have such a good illustration of the two side by side John, thanks. I can see clearly what the problem is, now.
This is the second time this week a simple straightforward reply from me has opened a can of confusion and doubt and produced more questions to answer.
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Interesting reading that article, it suggests that this etched version is later in date that the cut and etched version.
The two for comparison:
John
Yes, that was what was confusing me. Any idea of the date for the etched only version?
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Finding that out might require a bit more digging. :)