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Title: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: jonspencer on July 21, 2019, 04:11:21 PM
I have been reading about these designs and seen a few pieces in Milan antique shops

today I bought a few inexpensive pendants from a town over towards Venice named Monselice

they are set in some nice silver surrounds of obvious quality

in the past week I have looked at dozens of pieces of glass that were said to be Murano's by local experts but no signatures

it seems some of the trophy pieces are large and do have signatures but there are plenty of beautiful pieces that are unsigned but still must be authentic, particularly different types of lighting
Title: Re: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 21, 2019, 04:52:26 PM
Thailand, not Murano, and fairly contemporary. There is/has been a lot of fabulous costume jewellery from that source in the last 10 or so years.
They have been recreating fake gemstones from glass really, really well - (apart from opals - the real thing is completely different), and putting them in glorious hand made silver settings, along with pendants and chokers with these murrines.
I have one - and my OH won't let me wear it when I go out - too many people stop me to admire it and he gets fed up with it. :)
Title: Re: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: Anne on July 21, 2019, 06:03:19 PM
I have a similar pendant but mine says Made in Italy on its box: https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,20903.0.html
Title: Re: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: jonspencer on July 21, 2019, 08:03:05 PM
I have difficulty believing I bought a pendant that was made in Thailand at some church flea market in a small town in Italy but I am sure the clever guys in Thailand also package their products with boxes that say Made in Italy  ;D
Title: Re: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 22, 2019, 11:49:42 AM
It was maybe about 10-15 years ago I got mine. At the time, gift shops and stands in markets were swamped with this amazing costume jewellery from Thailand. It was beautiful and very cheap, and it sold like hotcakes.
I saw it in Portobello Road, on several stalls as well as all over the place here in Scotland. Then it sort of dried up and you don't see it now.
The setting on mine is very complex - a huge amount of silverwork, flowers, scrolls, leaves and curls. I never saw another the same. I looked and looked!

What is worrying me about the OPs ones is that the canes themselves are not of what I would consider Murano quality - but canes and murrines are not my thing - neither is Murano. I only dabble around the edges of these "pretty things".

I'm just suspicious of them actually being "Murano". Especially when the canes are not highly complex.
Title: Re: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: glassobsessed on July 22, 2019, 05:23:50 PM
The canes are typical of those found in some Murano weights, much like this one.

John
Title: Re: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 22, 2019, 05:33:01 PM
That is certainly in much better focus; I can see clearly that the canes are more complex in that, with sea-anenome-y surrounding bits not plain bits,
Basically an extra cane inside a cane, level complex.

And going back to Jon's original pics, I think they might be more complex than I had originally thought, after all.
sorry! :-[
Title: Re: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: jonspencer on July 28, 2019, 04:34:07 PM
after buying those two little pendants which I think are gorgeous if you hold them up in the light

I bought some more pieces both newer and old

the attached piece seems to be fairly old (and certainly not from Thailand or Taiwan ;-) with many different types of ornate beads

it is 31 inches long

my current favourite vase was a perfect stand for this necklace
Title: Re: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 28, 2019, 04:50:03 PM
 :)
Beads are notoriously difficult to find an origin for - many are made in cottage type industries.
They only really require lampwork.
Canes can be bought commercially from wherever makes them.
I have been told (by the folk on antiques roadshow), that beads with black centres, ones made on copper wires, are more likely to be from the Venetian area than beads with chalky white centres, which tend to be from around Prague - but remember - they're not terribly far apart.  :)

Your main string looks a bit like one cobbled together from beads from various sources and ages.
If you find beads on a knotted string, they are more likely to be original - as are beads on wires. The best thing to find them on is square-sectioned gold wires.

There are old beads, made from canes, which are of Indian origins. They tend to be very large.

Beads sell well, but based mostly on decorative value rather than anybody knowing where on earth they came from or who made them.
Title: Re: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: jonspencer on July 29, 2019, 03:50:13 PM
I picked up a few other fun pieces of Murano jewelry last week

all the items in this thread only cost a few Euros each, so really just a hobby and  learning process for me  ;)
Title: Re: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: jonspencer on August 09, 2019, 08:23:45 PM
I visited some markets in the south of Italy this past weekend and they seem to be enthusiastic Murano jewelry collectors, much more so than in the north IMO

there seems to be a relatively brisk trade going on in different size beads with a wide variety of colours and designs
Title: Re: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 10, 2019, 10:05:43 AM
Costume jewellery is popular and fashionable.  :)
This does not neccessarily mean it is collectable or has a viable secondary market, if that is what you are interested in.
Title: Re: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: jonspencer on August 10, 2019, 03:24:12 PM
I was at a large flea market today and one lady had a stand with only jewelry and most of it was Murano, her prices seemed quite expensive compared to what I have seen on earlier market outings

the bracelet below I bought at a different stand

here in Italy there is quite apparently a market for Murano jewelry

Title: Re: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: jonspencer on November 24, 2019, 03:03:25 PM
funny that I have never ever sold (or tried to sell) a piece of glass that I have collected thus far

so on a recent visit to my employer's Asia office, I decided to run an ad to sell the old 31 inch necklace I posted here

several people contacted me about it and the first guy who came to look at it purchased it for over 60x what I paid for it  ;D
Title: Re: Murano glass jewelry
Post by: jonspencer on December 17, 2019, 07:27:30 AM
I came across some new old stock of Amore & Baci bracelets that are quite nice looking

this is expensive costume jewelry made with Murano glass beads that is sold in major department stores