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Title: Lucky Find, but Poli...?
Post by: horochar on August 20, 2006, 01:52:18 AM

My perseverance has finally paid off, and I found a better vase for my collection without breaking the bank. :D  I picked up this lovely piece at a church sale.  My question is whether it is in fact a Flavio Poli.  Leslie Pina's book "attributes" it to Poli, but it would be great to know that that is definitively the case.
Thanks,
Charles.
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Title: Lucky Find, but Poli...?
Post by: Laura Friedman on August 20, 2006, 05:31:56 PM

Not Poli (where did she get that attribution?).  It's Archimede Seguso, circa 1950s.  Still a very nice piece.

Most of the Poli sommeros are extremely simple in form, and unadorned.

Laura

Title: Lucky Find, but Poli...?
Post by: horochar on August 20, 2006, 05:53:45 PM

Thanks Laura.  The exact piece is pictured on page 65 of Pina's "Italian Glass Century 20," Schiffer copyright 2003, "...attributed to Flavio Poli for Seguso Vetri d'Arte."  Some pieces in this general style are shown on page 28 and described as being Barbini.

Title: Lucky Find, but Poli...?
Post by: Laura Friedman on August 20, 2006, 06:01:05 PM

Hi,

I thought better about my response.

The pieces in this shape I've had with Seguso labels are all one color, with another color over them (sommerso).  I would guess that other companies, such as Barbini, did similar items, and that as yours fades in color from bottom to top it might be by someone other than Seguso..

I think it's fair to say that Poli is out. I've never seen anthing like this with a Seguso Vetri d'Arte label. Does Pina give any sources for her attribution?

Laura

Title: Lucky Find, but Poli...?
Post by: chuggy on August 20, 2006, 06:50:09 PM

Well it sure as hell isn't Poli and as Laura says I've only ever come across Archimede Seguso in single colours in this shape though some have had gold infusions. I must admit to never having come across one that could be identified as being Barbini, but it's an interesting notion. Just to throw one other option into the melting pot and that is that it's not Murano at all, but Czech.
Paul

Title: Lucky Find, but Poli...?
Post by: horochar on August 20, 2006, 08:21:44 PM

Yikes!  Quite a can of worms.  In answer to Laura's question, Pina provides no attribution and no mention of any importer's label.  Well, her book does have lots of pretty pictures, so it's good for at least something.  As to Paul's suggestion, I seriously hope it isn't Czech!  (I'm narrow minded in my collecting habits).  And to toss another name in the mix, page 96 shows a "Fratelli Toso"  :roll:  piece in the same general form (albeit with pulled ears) that similarly has graduated color treatment.

Charles

Title: Lucky Find, but Poli...?
Post by: Artofvenice on August 29, 2006, 08:19:42 PM

Hi,
personally I think that it is very very hard to know who really made this piece. It is a common shape and style; I have seen very very similar pieces made by different master glassmakers. It is also a pretty simple piece and it can be made also by one of the several medium skilled Murano glassmakers.

Sincerely

Alex

http://www.artofvenice.com