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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: flying free on August 03, 2019, 01:34:03 PM
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I don't think I've ever seen any?
Is there any?
m
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Hi M. Not sure if you have the whitefriars book by Dennis? Page 16 there's a reference to criticism of whitefriars glass for lack of colour, and then a comment that at the 1899 exhibition that "the keynote of their latest work is colour". Red and ruby are mentioned in respect of some pieces. So it would appear that this might be the earliest.
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Page 23 has a black and white illustration of a Powell chandelier c.1865 with ruby and green leaves, so we know the colour was used. I thought I remembered seeing a reference to them winning an award for colour around that time, but I can't seem to find it now. The earliest ruby piece in the coloured plates is a section for Venetian inspired pieces from 1870-1910 and the ruby tazza is "pre-1910".
It certainly looks as though 19th century ruby pieces would be a rare find.
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Thank you :)
That's very helpful.
m
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The chandelier with ruby bits and green leaves is here:
http://media.vam.ac.uk/media/thira/collection_images/2006AT/2006AT4404.jpg
here is the v&a main online link to it:
http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O652/old-venetian-style-chandelier-james-powell-sons/
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Oooh......looks much better in colour!
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It's interesting re the date and the style of it.
Salviati started in 1859.
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No 57 in this link catalogue - a ruby glass scent bottle with dented sides
description says:
'Harry Powell 1853–1922
57 Scent bottle, c.1901
Ruby red glass, dented body with silver collar and stopper,
hallmark for William Hutton & Sons, 1901
Height 9¼ in · 23.5 cm
Exhibited: London, Arts & Crafts Exhibition, 1916 (C5), same
shape exhibited'
https://thefineartsociety.com/usr/library/documents/main/the-john-scott-collection-whitefriars-glass-vol-4-2014.pdf
No 69 is outside 19th century being c.1910 but is a pretty beautiful piece of glass - definitely worth looking at :)
This link shows the collection in the British Museum. No red as far as I could find:
https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/search.aspx?people=80930&peoA=80930-2-37
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I've just come across a piece of writing from H. J. Powell B.A. in the Scientific American Vol XI Jan-Jun 1881 page 4699. It's a long article but this information/quote is found in the middle column of that page:
https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Scientific_American/EhI8AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=uranium+in+glass+H+J+powell&pg=PA4699&printsec=frontcover
Where H.J. Powell B.A. says in the article
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'Bohemian glass, in addition to the silicates of sodium, potassium and calcium, contains traces of the silicates of magnesium, and aluminium. It is fusible easily manipulated, and develops, with the sub-oxide of copper, a ruby colour, which cannot be attained with a glass containing silicate of lead.'
I'm not sure I understand this correctly, not being a glassmaker or scientist. Does it mean that copper ruby cannot be attained with lead glass?