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Title: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: todbo on August 25, 2019, 02:07:50 AM
My mom bought this from Georg Jensen (I think) in the late 60's or 70's. I'm looking for any information about it. It's marked Konstglas CJ Engberg 66 on the bottom.
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: catshome on August 25, 2019, 09:22:40 AM
Hello and welcome.

What an interesting piece.  Please post a picture of the base and let us have some measurements.

It looks at first glance like a perfume bottle......is the ball firmly attached?
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: todbo on August 25, 2019, 08:51:00 PM
I figured that this would be a pretty common item, so I didn't give enough information.  The sculpture is solid glass (six pieces cemented together), quite heavy (6.6 pounds on my bathroom scale). It stands 10 inches tall and is 7 inches at the widest. I'm not being allowed to upload a 113k image...
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: catshome on August 25, 2019, 10:16:57 PM
I think it's a very unusual piece and, at 10", quite striking.  Nothing in my books so far  for Engberg, is it definitely CJ? The 66 is probably the model Number.  If it was enberg it would translate as "a mountain", which would be an apt name for the piece.
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: todbo on August 26, 2019, 01:28:16 AM
Here's the bottom.
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: todbo on August 26, 2019, 01:58:43 AM
the signature
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: catshome on August 26, 2019, 08:01:39 AM
Thank you for the extra pictures......any chance of one more with the first part a bit clearer?  I don't see  "konstglas" from the picture.  Have found Engberg Glass, Bavaria, but nothing like your piece.   I'm still not sure it starts with "E"......if it does, the C-J would surely be E-J?
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: rosieposie on August 26, 2019, 08:41:53 AM
I see Sweden and Omberg in that writing... I'd like to see all of it though.
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: Anne on August 26, 2019, 02:40:38 PM
Could we have a larger photo of the whole signature please? You should be able to make it around 700 pixels on the longer sides and still fit our file size limits.  If not, we can help - if you can email me a copy of the base showing the signature clearly (straight from camera/phone is best) and I'll resize it to fit the board for you, if that helps? support AT glassmessages.com will reach me (close up the spaces and change AT to @).
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: Anne on August 26, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
There was an Ateljé Engberg, in Urshult, Sweden.  Most of their pieces I'm seeing pic's of are labelled rather than carry engraved signatures, like THIS (https://www.ebay.ca/itm/VTG-Sweden-Atelje-engberg-urshult-glass-figurine-sculpture-bust-Carl-XI-Gustav/113834763428) one.
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: todbo on August 26, 2019, 06:02:20 PM
Thanks for the help here. As I examine the entire circular base, A word that I could not decipher is Urshult! Getting closer!
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: catshome on August 26, 2019, 06:08:40 PM
This looks to be from the same maker as yours

https://allegro.pl/oferta/szklany-swiecznik-konst-glashyttan-urshult-sweden-8414553065?reco_id=c4ad8372-c82d-11e9-b5b4-246e9677f638&sid=0e7a5475e04eefd78184d559df6fb9f87c889ad5ac94196dac75ac99722370c3&bi_s=archiwum_allegro&bi_c=Product&bi_m=reco&


Please do post another picture of the base with all the words showing.....even split into two close ups if it helps.
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: Anne on August 26, 2019, 07:10:50 PM
OK,  think we are getting there. Todd sent me the original big image so I could resize it to show what's there... see attached.

The wording reads  "Konstglashyttan Urshult Sweden E - J. Engberg - 66" which ties in with what I was thinking in my earlier post and matches what Cat found above too.   8)
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: catshome on August 26, 2019, 09:53:33 PM
The Swedish surname "Engberg" translates as "meadow mountain", which could be the name of the piece.  EJ could then be the initials of the artist, with 66 the model number.   That's if they use the same convention for their marks as FM Konstglas.  i haven't managed to find the right EJ yet.
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: Anne on August 27, 2019, 12:21:47 AM
It appears to have been a short-lived glassworks, Cat. This topic https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,43435.msg242525.html#msg242525 (https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,43435.msg242525.html#msg242525)  gives a link to the Wikipedia list of Swedish glassworks which includes Urshult and gives its dates as 1965 - 1970, which probably explains the paucity of information about them online. Urshult is a very small village (population 794 inhabitants in 2010).
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: todbo on August 27, 2019, 12:51:42 AM
You folks are simply remarkable detectives! I'm in awe. Really.
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: Anne on August 27, 2019, 01:39:35 AM
A bit more investigating produced the info that there may have been two glassmakers in Urshult.  The first was operative 1965 - 1989 and the second was operative 1973 - 1991. Todbo's piece carrying the 66 might be from 1966 and thus falls under the first one.
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: catshome on August 27, 2019, 02:01:59 AM
That might explain why there's so little in the books - only one piece in "smoke & ice" and one in "fire & sea", and nothing about the company.
Title: Re: Konstglas sculpture CJ Engberg 1966
Post by: Anne on August 27, 2019, 07:44:08 PM
I suspect it is, Cat.  These short-lived glassworks are very difficult to find much about unless you can access locals who remember them, which for us is difficult, this one being in Sweden.  If you search Google for Urshult glas you do get results of items they made, which is useful, just no background, history, designers, etc...