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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: fatbelly on September 12, 2019, 12:22:52 PM
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Hi all.
I purchased this with some Loetz Rusitcana but this isn’t.I have searched the usual suspects and can not find anything quite right.It has a green Powell W/F colour palette to it but I don’t think it’s W/F.
It’s nicely done with polished pontil.
Measures 1’ or 12” tall.
Any ideas to research would be appreciated.
FB
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Powell / wf did tapole vases a quick google confirms this
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Thanks staircase.
I will chase that up.
I did see some Powell pieces with tadpole ish shapes in the WF book.
Colour is close.
Thanks
FB
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I think that's (might be?) Stuart.
Can't find a ref for you at the mo but I think I've seen one in clear maybe in the museum pics that someone has posted from the Red House (?)
I've some catalogue pages somewhere - I'll try and dig them out over the next few days and see if it's in there.
m
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Thanks flying free.
I will have a look down the Stuart route too.I did find a W/Friars vase in the same colour with similar tadpoles but on a pot bellied shape which was posted in the W/F .org site which is no longer there.
I’ll keep trying to find it.
Thanks again
FB.
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Did Stevens and Williams also do a range back in the day, and did most Stuart glass have an acid stamp or only on later items ?.
Regards Kev.
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Webb and Stevens and Williams also made applied peacock trails/tadpoles/cats eye/other applied pads descriptions.
For some reason I think this one is Stuart because of the spiral trails. However I think S&W also did these.
There are other Bohemian makers as well. But I think this is English glass.
Harrods stocked a huge range of Stuart applied and trailed - I need to check catalogues to see if it's in there. There is also a Stuart catalogue/pattern book somewhere with these in but I don't have that.
m
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actually wracking my brains I think it's an opalescent version of this I've seen and possibly id'd as Harrach, but I queried that iirc.(not that my query/opinion holds more water than the original id version as iirc it might have been in a book).
I'd need to look it up and other things beckon at the moment.
Will do later.
m
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Thanks both.
I did find a piece in the same colour with spiral but on a squat vase on an online auction site attributed to Stuart based on Harrach.Comes up under google searches for Stuart tadpole.
Definitely not marked although there is a lot of wear to base.
Will keep searching.
Thanks again
FB.
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none of my Stuart pieces are marked.
m
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There is one in my catalogue pages.
It says it is green 'Peacock' decoration on clear glass.
The design is called (by Harrods) 'The Original English "Peacock" Decoration'.
The catalogue number they have it as is 'No C H 4.' I believe these correspond with the number in the Stuart catalogue from what I recall of previous conversations.
It came in various sizes including 12".
It's the same shape and design as yours.
I believe Stuart did vases in plain green as well, it's just that the design of the ones in the Harrods catalogue happen to be the green on clear glass in that instance.
So the shape code 'No C H 4.' should still be relevant to your piece.
Date is 1907 I believe.
m
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That’s proper research flying free.
Thank you.
I will see if I can find a reference online for that using the info.
I like the “original” English description.
It’s really nice.
Thanks again
FB
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I doubt you'll find reference online.
The corresponding code will be in the Stuart catalogue which does exist.
There is a version which is opalescent with green(iirc) applied pads but I've not been able to find it again so far.
m