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Title: maker of unsignd iridescent glass bowl
Post by: guest14107 on September 24, 2019, 10:37:14 AM
Hi, anyone recognise this unsigned piece of glass? its only 15cm approx across.
Title: Re: maker of unsignd iridescent glass bowl -WMF Myra
Post by: guest14107 on September 28, 2019, 09:46:55 AM
Hi confirmed as WMF Myra glass cheers
Title: Re: maker of unsignd iridescent glass
Post by: BlueOctopus on September 30, 2019, 08:51:59 PM
Hello, maybe you don‘t like me any more, but I don‘t think it is Myra .
1. the Blue is to expressive , Myra is more delicat
2. I have 4 Myra vases, they are all lighter , this seems quite heavy
3. and this I think the best argument, in not one  of the catalogues from 1928-1951 I could find a model where the rim goes down like this, 

This kind of glass was also made by Joska, Eisch and Poschinger, I Soulsängers think this is Joska, unfortunately not so old :-[
Monika
Title: Re: maker of unsignd iridescent glass bowl
Post by: guest14107 on October 01, 2019, 06:31:28 AM
Hi thank you for your reply, confirmed as Myra by two independent glass specialist retailers at the international antiques fair this last weekend cheers xxx
Title: Re: maker of unsignd iridescent glass bowl
Post by: glassobsessed on October 01, 2019, 07:51:00 AM
I doubt very much this is WMF Myra, as Monika has already pointed out the glass is way too thick and heavy for Myra, I would expect it to be thin and delicate.

John
Title: Re: maker of unsignd iridescent glass bowl
Post by: catshome on October 01, 2019, 09:19:50 AM
I can see why Monika and John raised questions about the attribution of this piece, and perhaps it warrants a bit more digging to be sure.  It's always more difficult from photographs.  Did the people at the fair handle your piece Athena?

There is another with the same profile attributed to WMF Myra in the link below, with a slightly more convincing colourway but 20cm diameter

https://auction.catawiki.com/kavels/8257323-wmf-myra-art-deco-iridescent-glass-vase

If it was my piece, I wouldn't feel satisfied yet.

Title: Re: maker of unsignd iridescent glass bowl
Post by: flying free on October 01, 2019, 07:50:39 PM
Cat I can't see the difference between the op's blue vase and the one you've linked to.


They look the same design to me. 

I can see that the blue one is cased in clear. I wonder if this is a later iteration of the gold version? but still WMF.

In fact,checking the later photographs,the gold one is also cased in clear.

Are neither WMF Myra? or are they both WMF Myra?

Either way, they are the same maker and design I think.  But whether they are WMF remains to be seen.

I shall go and find the book and have a look :)

m
Title: Re: maker of unsignd iridescent glass bowl
Post by: flying free on October 01, 2019, 08:11:48 PM
I have made a look through the book and cannot see anything at all in this form.

I know this also because I have a large vase with a similar ish rim and have been searching WMF for this rim for a long time.  But I have looked through all the pattern catalogue photographs quite thoroughly and unless I have missed one, then it is not there. Also that blue colour is not one I would associate with WMF.

m
Title: Re: maker of unsignd iridescent glass bowl
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 02, 2019, 01:56:29 PM
I don't think even the iridesence looks right for Myra - it's too glittery and bitty and almost jig-sawed at the edges.
And Myra is thin, the sort of thing that is more easily mistaken for Tiffany.

I really suspect it is quite recent.
Title: Re: maker of unsignd iridescent glass bowl
Post by: flying free on October 02, 2019, 02:00:45 PM
For some reason that cobalt blue always reminds me of Polish glass.  I don't know why.
Fairly recent Polish might be a possibility for these?  They are well made but they do look more recent production.

Also yes, that stretch iridescent rim reminds me of American stretch glass that been stuck up (I have a uranium glass bowl where the crackle stretch looks very similar to these). So the base not right (polished pontil mark) but the stretch iridescent effect is very similar.


m
Title: Re: maker of unsignd iridescent glass bowl
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 02, 2019, 02:44:50 PM
That's the word I'd lost  ;D - it's got that stretched sort of iridesence.
That's pretty new, isn't it?
Title: Re: maker of unsignd iridescent glass bowl
Post by: david31162 on October 02, 2019, 09:21:40 PM
I've just been through my Myra/Ikora book twice and the shape doesn't appear at all as far as I can see - looks a more modern shape to me too. I've had plenty of thick Ikora pieces but none with that clarity of this base. I also think of Myra as finer more delicate gauge glass in general.
David
Title: Re: maker of unsignd iridescent glass bowl
Post by: BlueOctopus on October 13, 2019, 08:52:38 PM
I just saw a salts that reminded at your bowl. This was from Tiffany.

Maybe it is worth to surcharging in that direction

http://opensalts.us/Collections/Gallery/CommemorativeSalts/CommemorativeSalts.html

Monika
Title: Re: maker of unsignd iridescent glass bowl
Post by: Anne on October 13, 2019, 09:49:21 PM
Athena has left the board. I do hope she sees all the helpful responses here, but I suspect she won't.
Title: Re: maker of unsignd iridescent glass bowl
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 14, 2019, 08:02:01 PM
They were obviously the wrong answers LOL