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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Paul S. on October 05, 2019, 02:28:35 PM
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I gave this one to the charity shop some months back, and noticed this morning it remained unsold ……….. so apologised and asked for it back, to which they agreed.
Originally when I found the piece I did look in those books I still had, but couldn't find any images or reference to the shape etc., though obviously it bears a vague similarity to Hepple's press moulded shell items. Needless to say it's unmarked - perhaps a modern made thing, but some quite fine details showing. Made in a four part mould - stands about 4 inches tall (c. 100 mm).
Probably a non-starter for id, but thought I'd run it past people here.
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There's one in the link but I guess that doesn't help much and perhaps you've already seen it Paul, but I'm showing it anyway, just to show it is also seen as a bowl.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/davidson-sowerby-english-blue-slag-1758857401
(https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/davidson-sowerby-english-blue-slag-1758857401)
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many thanks for locating that link Anne, showing what appears to be an identical shape, and described as a sugar bowl, which it may well in fact be, rather than a posy - in both the marbled pale blue and 'teal' (though it looks more like purple marbling). In fact I'd not seen the link, so appreciate you efforts with this information.
Your link provides the names of three U.K. C19 manufacturers, as having a connection with this design - Davidson, Sowerby and Hepple - so we're spoilt for choice, though it remains questionable whether this piece is related to any of them, and I'd have thought had there been a connection with those makers then someone here would have commented by now.
The reference to Hepple is obvious - they made similar pressed designs in the shape of small shell-like pieces, though not as far as I know in marbled coloured glass - theirs were in an opal white, and can be seen on the Board's archive for that maker, and in some of the better books on pressed glass.
Both Davidson and Sowerby - plus others - made marbled coloured glass, so always possible this design might have come from them, but in the absence of marks and input from other people here, then attribution remains presently unconfirmed.
For those who may not be aware, the Mods. received a complaint regarding my text of the original post, above, and they have now amended the wording to remove what was described as derogatory and potentially offensive material.
In the light of this I quite naturally apologise sincerely, and can assure everyone that the act of being offensive intentionally could not have been further from my mind.
I won't contribute further, and hope that eventually the correct attribution for this little nautilus bowl will be found. Regards Paul.
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I'm not that familiar with this type of glass Paul, just came across the link when I had a quick look and as you say, several possibilities. In France they did a little bit too, Schmidt Verriers and LeBlanc/Portieux/Vallerysthal are usually marked but Sarrs for instance, isn't and I'm sure the same happened in the UK.
I don't know what you are referring to re the rectification of your post … the thing with internet is that one never gets the exact intention of how something is said or meant because you haven't got the person in front of you, and it is easy to misunderstand something or make judgement. It is something I need to remind myself of regularly.
I won't contribute further
I don't know if you're referring to just this thread or not, I only know never to make permanent decisions on temporary feelings :-*
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Hi Paul
I still have one in purple, still maker unknown but I would still be guessing at British and Victorian.
A couple of earlier posts on this piece.
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,64003.msg358605.html#msg358605
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,67112.msg374340.html#msg374340
Roy
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Paul, I do hope you only meant that you won't contribute further on the subject of whatever happened, and not on the board entirely. I'm only just getting to "know" you, and already greatly appreciate your input and willingness to share your knowledge. I think Anne has it spot on about communication on the Internet - it's not easy to get it right for everyone all of the time. I hope to see "Paul S." on lots more threads in the future.
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Quote from Roy "...............… but I would still be guessing at British and Victorian." Probably a realistic assumption, though sometimes I worry that modern copies from the states, where old moulds continue in use, might be an outside possibility.
I could be wrong, but don't recall seeing this particular design in the books dedicated to pressed glass - though the answer to that situation might just be that authors dislike pieces for which they're unable to provided attribution etc.
Perhaps we shall nail this one someday.