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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: jonspencer on October 09, 2019, 09:42:56 AM

Title: antique Murano globe pendant with reverse double swirl
Post by: jonspencer on October 09, 2019, 09:42:56 AM
this is my new favourite lamp, just incredible detail

it seems one swirl goes in one direction on outer part of the globe and the other swirl goes in the opposite direction on the inner part of the globe, would this make it like a helix?  ;D

I also read somewhere that some of the old hand-blown pieces sometimes have tiny pieces of charcoal inside them as that is what they used as fuel to make the glass hot, there are tiny areas in the globe with black residue.

it was a pendant when I bought it but might look better as a table lamp? I will set it up soon both ways with the lamp on to see.

it is about 10 x 10 inches (25 x 25 cm)
Title: Re: antique Murano globe pendant with reverse double swirl
Post by: jonspencer on October 09, 2019, 09:56:33 AM

can somebody confirm if this size is actually better for the Glass Message Board?
Title: Re: antique Murano globe pendant with reverse double swirl
Post by: jonspencer on October 09, 2019, 10:01:42 AM
re-sized photo attachments
Title: Re: antique Murano globe pendant with reverse double swirl
Post by: ardy on October 12, 2019, 02:19:18 AM
Jon: I would do pendent every time also much easier to sell Absolutely gorgeous. As stated before you have great taste.
Title: Re: antique Murano globe pendant with reverse double swirl
Post by: jonspencer on October 16, 2019, 05:54:13 AM
agree with your advice about only buying pendants but many temptations to also buy other lighting variations  ;D

I found my same pendant lamp on Pamono and they are saying it is a Paolo Venini design (which is good news)

https://www.pamono.com/vintage-chandelier-by-paolo-venini-1930s
Title: Re: antique Murano globe pendant with reverse double swirl
Post by: jonspencer on October 16, 2019, 07:20:39 AM
apparently this design is referred to as "Reticello"

the original design is from the 1930's and attributed to Tomaso Buzzi for Venini

later Carlo Scarpa made a similar design

an interesting fact I learned is if you have the original fitting, aluminum was used in the 1930s as brass was reserved for military products until later in the 1940s
Title: Re: antique Murano globe pendant with reverse double swirl
Post by: jonspencer on October 16, 2019, 07:32:53 AM
I just checked and the lamp I bought has an aluminum base + stem  ;D

it is the exact same lamp as noted here>

http://midmodernist.com/product/venini-reticello-globe-blue-catalogue-tommaso-buzzi-era-late-1930s/
Title: Re: antique Murano globe pendant with reverse double swirl
Post by: jonspencer on November 01, 2019, 05:49:50 PM
really pleased with how this pendant lamp looks mounted and the lamp on

might not use the original aluminum stem and fixture though as it is easily bent
Title: Re: antique Murano globe pendant with reverse double swirl
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 02, 2019, 04:54:55 PM
Definitely pendant - it takes up too much space to be of practical use on a table or desk.
I'm still having trouble with your pics Jon.   :-[
I get rainbow pixels instead of details when I blow them up.

I'm not sure it is reticello - that is a particular technique which results in crossing over strands of glass, but I think it involves fusing two different sets of canes together side by side to create a sheet which is rolled up into a cylinder and blown, then another set similar is created and blown inside the the first one to create the crossover. I think an air bubble can appear too. It's a really difficult and complicated thing to do, and I'm not sure if that would have been how this was made.
But I can't see any close up details to be sure about anything. :)

Here's a video of it being done - much easier to follow than me describing it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCrdewFgObc