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Title: Can anyone ID this "hammered" ruby red glass vase?
Post by: ian.macky on October 19, 2019, 11:19:05 PM
Hi all.  Does anyone recognize this ruby-red glass vase?  It has a surface texture I'd call "hammered".  My mom needs some red glass for her windowsill and it's the only thing I've seen so far I liked.  Thanks!

(http://glassian.org/tmp/ruby_red_vase2.jpg)
Title: Re: Can anyone ID this "hammered" ruby red glass vase?
Post by: catshome on October 20, 2019, 03:16:50 AM
Please add some measurements and a picture of the base.  Thanks
Title: Re: Can anyone ID this "hammered" ruby red glass vase?
Post by: ian.macky on October 20, 2019, 02:42:24 PM
It's 18½" tall (about 47cm), and I'll try to get a picture of the base...
Title: Re: Can anyone ID this "hammered" ruby red glass vase?
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 20, 2019, 03:05:53 PM
I think the texture is called Battuto.
It is an old technique, and can be found in quality Murano pieces, but it is also currently being made. I've seen a fair bit from both Germany and India in TKMaxx. (Varying quality.)
Title: Re: Can anyone ID this "hammered" ruby red glass vase?
Post by: ian.macky on October 20, 2019, 03:33:58 PM
Battuto -- yes, that's the look.  I found this on eBay UK; it's claimed to be Murano:

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Brown vase on eBay UK (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Murano-Italian-Smokey-Brown-Art-Glass-Battuto-Vase/113927709912?hash=item1a869ee4d8:g:s0gAAOSwFuJdqWvZ)

The lip is distinctive, no?

I'm trying to find out if the ruby one has any markings.  The UK one (above) includes a picture of the base, which is unmarked.
Title: Re: Can anyone ID this "hammered" ruby red glass vase?
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 20, 2019, 03:53:47 PM
That doesn't look particularly batutto.  ;D
It should all fit together, very neatly.
The colour, however, is very like the contemporary German batutto I've seen. A smoky greeny brown. The maker was Eichendorf. (labels on wares in TKMaxx).

The lip is distinctively squint.  ;D
Title: Re: Can anyone ID this "hammered" ruby red glass vase?
Post by: ian.macky on October 20, 2019, 04:14:00 PM
Yes the amber one is only a bit hammered at the top, so not battuto-all-over...

Hmm, here's another one, and this has a picture of its base (with pontil):

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Red vase on eBay UK (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Red-Battuto-Glass-Vase/253425340571?hash=item3b0153d09b:g:x0YAAOSwEoJagygc)
(See full view and Base images)

TKMaxx does sell a lot of vases, and battuto is pretty labor-intensive so I could see it being made in India where labor is cheap....

Wish I could see the thing in person.
Title: Re: Can anyone ID this "hammered" ruby red glass vase?
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 20, 2019, 05:04:42 PM
I've had a search for Eichendorff, and got nothing.
They were very plain shapes. Tall, straight sided bottles - a bit like a gulvase with a shorter neck. They may have had unbatutto-ed top parts.
Nothing organic-looking.

The Indian vases were brighter colours and more unusual shapes.
It is a few years since I have been there. This is going back a bit, to a time when they often had really good bits of glass hiding around.  ;D
Title: Re: Can anyone ID this "hammered" ruby red glass vase?
Post by: catshome on October 20, 2019, 06:32:07 PM
Ian, did you take the photographs you are posting here?
Title: Re: Can anyone ID this "hammered" ruby red glass vase?
Post by: ian.macky on October 20, 2019, 09:05:46 PM
The pics of the article in question are used with permission of the current owner; the others were swiped from online and are in my "tmp" directory, to be removed later.
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The owner just provided a pic of the base, with sticker, which sticker has a definite TKMaxx look to, not Italian...

(http://glassian.org/tmp/ruby_red_vase_base2.jpg)

I don't see the number on the sticker anywhere online: Looks like 24SVSGLAMI18/457
Title: Re: Can anyone ID this "hammered" ruby red glass vase?
Post by: ian.macky on October 20, 2019, 11:11:56 PM
Hmm, actually that sticker might have been put on by the antique store it came from, for their own inventory control.  I still like this vase, though... I just don't want to give my mum some cheap knockoff for xmas.  You can buy red bottles at the dollar store now (yes, for $1).  They look like they're coated, not colored in the mass, but I soaked one in my oxalic acid cleaning solution for  a couple weeks and the surface emerged unscathed.  They're useful for yard art/outdoor markers...