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Title: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: bat20 on November 05, 2019, 12:43:06 PM
Hi,this jar is 10.5" high with a folded foot and broken Pontil with a surprising amount of wear along the thin edge of the folded foot,the lid also has a broken Pontil,I haven't a clue about this one ?,any thoughts thanks.
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: LEGSY on November 05, 2019, 01:43:47 PM
 :o
Love this piece of glass the color is rich and you mention wear not exactly sure
but i would think older than your first thought's certainly reminds me of old chemist
type jar's i would love to see it in the flesh it's stunning :)
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: catshome on November 05, 2019, 03:53:44 PM
Very nice.  How is the top rim finished?
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: bat20 on November 05, 2019, 04:55:26 PM
Thanks for the replies,the rim has been rounded.The knob and foot have been applied and it's fairly light and well made.I'm still not getting a feel for the age,but for some reason I'm thinking Italian in origin??
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: bat20 on November 26, 2019, 08:43:51 AM
Hi,I still haven't found anything to firm up a date on this apothecary jar,reliquary jars seem to have a similar shape but generally a different stem and I don't know when they were made or anything much about them,any thoughts gratefully accepted,thanks
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 26, 2019, 05:19:42 PM
Forget and dismiss Empoli.  :)
This is older and looks to be very well made.
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: bat20 on November 26, 2019, 06:39:46 PM
I know they were going in the 19th century,but I don't know what they were making exactly or to what standard.
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 26, 2019, 06:56:19 PM
Now you're talking stuff that confuses me.  ;D
In the 1800s?
I just wish it wasn't called the 19th C. It forces me to do unpleasant mental gymnastics. ;D
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: glassobsessed on November 26, 2019, 07:07:16 PM
Lovely bit of glass you have there. Clueless here but would stick with Italy for now.

How light in weight is it? Can we have the weight in grams please.

John
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: bat20 on November 26, 2019, 08:04:07 PM
It's 525g John,it does have a presence,probably a combination of the form and colour.
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: glassobsessed on November 27, 2019, 07:44:28 AM
That is fairly lightweight for such a large item, perhaps not quite soffiato light but still... Because it is unadorned in terms of both shape and decoration I reckon C20th is more likely than say the Victorian era but after that I am back to clueless again!
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: bat20 on November 27, 2019, 08:36:07 AM
It is a tricky one,normally I get some sort of feeling on age on a piece.The only thing I can add is on the areas it sits on the folding foot there is quite a lot of wear for something as light as this,on pieces with folded feet the area a piece sits on can be very thin and in a few places it's just flattening out a bit.
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: cagney on November 28, 2019, 10:36:40 PM
The same in all respects, Except in amber, not a lot of wear. Always thought it Italian. Never confirmed.
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: bat20 on November 28, 2019, 11:20:06 PM
That's very interesting and thanks for posting it,l wonder how many colours they came in? And if your colour could be more of a pointer to the makers?You probably know this but it's difficult to see wear on a folded foot so the best indicator of wear is to drag your finger nail over the edge and feel if it's abrasive.
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Post by: cagney on November 29, 2019, 12:08:23 AM
A jewelers loop works wonders for me. Easy to carry along wherever you go.
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: glassobsessed on November 29, 2019, 08:15:09 AM
If you google "glass apothecary jar" lots of variations of the basic shape crop up, most look as though they were made in Empoli, maybe from the 1950s to 70s.
Title: Re: Amethyst Empoli like jar?
Post by: bat20 on November 29, 2019, 09:03:55 AM
Googleing Empoli folded foot came up with some usefull images from the mid century,although they all seem a tad unconfirmed.It's looking great on the bathroom window shelf!!