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Title: Whitefriars duck colour id help please.
Post by: Janet on December 05, 2019, 03:59:46 PM

Hi, Is this Whitefriars duck ocean green please?

Title: Re: Whitefriars duck colour id help please.
Post by: Paul S. on December 05, 2019, 04:05:58 PM

regret I don't see any green in your picture - do you think it might be arctic blue instead?  -  the latter remained in production for some years apparently after arctic green was withdrawn, so there may be more of the blue ones around than green.    Did you buy this one as the green version Janet?

Of course it could be that I need Specsavers again  -  John will know for sure.

Title: Re: Whitefriars duck colour id help please.
Post by: Janet on December 05, 2019, 04:16:52 PM

Hi Paul,
Thanks for your reply, i dont think its Arctic blue...there is definately a green tint to it, ill try get a better photo of it.

Title: Re: Whitefriars duck colour id help please.
Post by: Janet on December 05, 2019, 04:42:50 PM

Here is another photo that hopefully shows the colour a bit better.

Title: Re: Whitefriars duck colour id help please.
Post by: Paul S. on December 05, 2019, 05:15:13 PM

thanks, you may have been correct first time then. :)

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Post by: Janet on December 05, 2019, 05:27:00 PM

That's great, thanks for your help :)

Its such a shame i cant get onto the Whitefriars.com website, so annoying. I cant find any info on the year of production for this colour either. If there are any Duck experts that can help please at all, i would be very grateful, thank you so much.

Title: Re: Whitefriars duck colour id help please.
Post by: Paul S. on December 05, 2019, 06:03:46 PM

regret I'm the least of the duck experts, but can offer Leslie Jackson's words regarding the two colours we've just been discussing, though of course you may already be aware of these descriptions from the author's glossary.

ocean green …    "A cool pale green colour introduced in 1959 to replace sea green.           It was launched along with arctic blue, and remained in production until 1966."

arctic blue ……….  "A cool shade of pale blue introduced in 1959 to replace sapphire, launched along with ocean green.     The latter was withdrawn in 1966, but arctic blue remained in production until the 1970 catalogue, and was used for both ornamental glass and tableware."

Assume with your interest you do at least have Leslie Jackson's 'Whitefriars Glass' -  first issued in 1996 (and reprinted 1999 and 2004) to accompany the Manchester and London exhibitions.           It's a bit cheaper than the big book.   

P.S.      Janet - what's the origin of the expression 'dilly duck', please?

Title: Re: Whitefriars duck colour id help please.
Post by: Janet on December 06, 2019, 08:06:51 AM

Morning everyone.
Many thanks Paul. I really appreciate your help.

Yes I do have the Lesley Jackson book but I honestly didn't realise that the colours and dates of introduction were in there.....I must try to check it out more often.

Alas I am now left wondering wether my duck is Ocean Green or Sea Green....

I don't know where the name Dilly Duck originated, I suppose it just sounds nice...ha ha. 

Title: Re: Whitefriars duck colour id help please.
Post by: catshome on December 06, 2019, 08:54:46 AM

There's some interesting information about these on Frank's site

http://glasszoo.info/cms/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=productdetails&virtuemart_product_id=11&virtuemart_category_id=20&lang=en