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Title: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: LEGSY on December 10, 2019, 09:28:52 PM
unused boxed set of shot glasses the box says Holme Sweden i guess an early name of Holmegaard? The glasses are round with
weighted bases which have been nicely polished with a ridge halfway up... Would love to know the period and designer would be
amazing but a date range would be great thanks :) 53/4" x 1"
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: Anne on December 11, 2019, 12:10:23 AM
Ah but, Holmegaard is Danish not Swedish so why does it say Sweden? :) 

Holme Sweden seems to be a puzzle. The only mentions I've found via Google are for photos of similar pieces on Catawiki. I wonder if Sweden is the pattern name? I'm at a loss really. We need a Scandi expert for this one.
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: LEGSY on December 11, 2019, 04:20:20 PM
 ???
Thank you so much Anne very puzzling isn't it :)
I have looked at the said site for what ever i could see
i noticed on one lot they say that it is Holmegaard but a rare
label i think possibly they are implying that for a period some
part of it's production maybe was moved to Swedan as with internet
this may or may not be factual information it certainly seemed to help
with the sale of the items at least. Does seem similar to the normal Holmegaard
label doesn't it :)
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: kerstinfroberg on December 13, 2019, 06:39:12 PM
The flag-savvy reader might notice the flag: it is Danish.

I find it highly unlikely that Holmegaard would have outsourced to Sweden, and then marikng the products with Sweden plus a Danish flag. However, I really have no idea...
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: Anne on December 14, 2019, 09:09:06 PM
That's part of what was puzzling us too Kerstin, odd isn't it?
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: catshome on December 15, 2019, 04:47:21 AM
Maybe made for the German market.......mundgeblasen - blown, handgeschliffen - hand cut.  Doesn't help with the Sweden bit, but might be a clue.
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: ahremck on December 15, 2019, 07:32:27 AM
Could not find anything similar in Hardernet.dk - tried Michael Banf & Per Lutken including liness without names - no sign at all.

Ross
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: LEGSY on December 15, 2019, 11:19:45 AM
 :)
Thank you so much i also went straight through hardernet no mean feat :)
up to now in my heart of hearts i was thinking they looked on the tin a bit like
the high life?Per Lutken glasses???
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: catshome on December 15, 2019, 01:41:27 PM
I did do a trawl through Per Lutken designs online and in the books when I first saw your post, couldn't find an exact match but it wouldn't surprise me if they were.  Give it time......the answer is out there somewhere!
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: ahremck on December 15, 2019, 09:45:52 PM
At this point Legsy I would suggest a couple of Facebook Groups where you might get sense.  I run 'Scandinavian Glass Collectors' and another good group for Holmegaard Glass was set up by Benny Berg called 'Heart of Glass'.  The particular experts there may well solve the problem.

And, I think, this is a worthwhile problem to solve.  If you do get a solution please upgrade this posting for others in the future.

Ross
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: LEGSY on December 15, 2019, 10:31:53 PM
 :)
Thank you Ross for the suggestion's i think it would be a good idea
will try and take some better pictures first, They certainly appear to have some
age o it may well take some time but that is why this collecting is so much fun :)
 :)
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: inca on December 16, 2019, 05:27:01 AM
Ross, I have already asked Benny Berg and he said that this is not Holmegaard.
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: BlueOctopus on December 16, 2019, 08:11:06 PM
Holmegaard is belonging to royal Scandinavia Glas since 1997 , Same does since 1995 Kosta Boda. They seem to produce quite unique but in the end the danish and svedish company belong somehow together. This information was new for me since I read it in Judith Millers book Glas of the 20th Century. This might be an explanation.
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: BlueOctopus on December 16, 2019, 08:26:43 PM
As longer I look to box label and the danish Swedish German mix, as more I‘m coming to the result that this is a fake label . Holmegaard is very good sellable in Germany , a lot collectors, and this might be trap. Maybe a German company with a fun label to catch the Swedish and the Holmegaard collectors together. The beargrass no 5 of Holmegaard are quite near in shape and apearence
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: LEGSY on December 16, 2019, 09:06:34 PM
 :)
Thanks Blueoctopus for the similarities and the lovely information regarding
spurious label i did think it may have been spurious but with nothing to go on
i couldn't be sure..The box has wear so must be some age and the plastic all seems
to fit well i guess still a nice set :) Thank you for all the help..
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: kerstinfroberg on December 31, 2019, 11:02:32 AM
Holmegaard is belonging to royal Scandinavia Glas since 1997 , Same does since 1995 Kosta Boda. They seem to produce quite unique but in the end the danish and svedish company belong somehow together. This information was new for me since I read it in Judith Millers book Glas of the 20th Century. This might be an explanation.

Jujst for the record: the glassworks Orrefors, Kosta, Boda, Åfors and Sandvik were owned by Royal Scandinavia from 1997. RS closed the factories in Boda (2003) and Sandvik (2004). The rest again became Swedish in 2005 (New wave group). NWG closed Orrefors and Åfors in 2013. Kosta glassworks is still thriving under NWG. The trademarks (Orrefors, Kosta Boda) still exist, production in Kosta and several other countries. (source https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orrefors_Kosta_Boda )

Royal Scandinavia apparently does not own any glassworks anymore (source https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Scandinavia )
Title: Re: Nice green boxed set of Holmegaard? shot glasses x6
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 20, 2020, 06:07:02 PM
These pop up occasionally - usually in Germany, occasionally in the UK.

It's nonsense branding that's close enough to trick some people but just different enough to not infringe Holmegaard copyright - like buying Kalvin Kleen underpants or a George Armarnio t-shirt from a Sunday market.