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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Cazza on December 17, 2019, 08:18:47 PM
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had this bowl for a few years now, just started to research it and found something similar on the glass museum. can anyone help with it please
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hi - have tried to open these pix but not working for me - says something about 'we don't support this file' ?? Is it just me having the problem?
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i had problems uploading them, perhaps it is to do with how they are saved or something, its one reason i do not come on here much as i find the photo's so hard to put up. i will try again. Will take more and put them on
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Hi - sorry to hear of the problems with uploading pix. This may depend on how and where they are saved and sourced.
Shouldn't be a difficulty if you are uploading from your own pc file - you can edit and re-size etc. then upload remembering to keep the first size at max. 700.
If you are sourcing from an external host then this might bring problems.
If these images are your own and taken by you, they should be o.k. If problems remain, you might send one to me and I'll try uploading for you.
See how you get on.
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There are two threads in here containing help to post images.
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/board,22.0.html
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I will take new photos tomorrow, the images are mine done on iphone and sent to my apple mac, tomorrow i will photograph with cannon camera and add the new pics.
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Here are the new photos, unsure what they will look like.
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Interesting and attractive piece i don't know
all the proper terms used for Murano glass techniques :(
They were very creative glass blowers.... I think this maybe
Italian glass the bubbly glass has flecks of silver i think
known as mica However the prunt on the front or blob looks
like it may have some detail which i can not make out??
Also has a bit of Eric Hoglund look too it i am just saying
what i can see here no expert lovely tactile studio look to it :)
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I can't make out what is in the prunt, but I am a little worried about the shade of green and the bubbles - it reminds me a bit of the sort of glass you see around with not terribly high quality etchings of galleons on. ???
Cazza, can I assume you meant Copier, rather than Covier? :)
I can see why somebody suggested Hoglund too - but he's not an area I know well enough to be able to distinguish accurately. :-[
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The prunt has a castle with two turrets, its not what you think its rough to touch there is no silver in it, they are white bits the only place it is soft is the polished base and where the marks are its rough again. I saw a Covier prunt on another item a vase and although i could not see the detail of the prunt it looked very similar so did the texture of the glass.
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Is Covier a glassmaker? It is not a name I know, I assumed there was a typo and you meant Copier.
Mod: Title for initial post changed to "Copier"
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here is a pic of the prunt
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yes sorry Copier, been a busy day
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Sorry to intersect but There is a turreted mark for a Gibralter Crystal they use the coat of arms for the city which is Turreted castle maybe a possibility to consider...Looks like they are winding up or already have the business...
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;D I know the feeling. ::)
That is a much better pic of the prunt - it looks really like Tower Bridge on it to me, rather than a castle with turrets.
Gibralter Glass logo has three towers. (I had to check! I worried about Partylite too, but you can count that out, that's 3 towers as well.)
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yes Gibraltar has been ruled out, its got writing on the base and what looks like a crown, the other pics i had were better than these ones but this site cannot open them.
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Yes the shade of green Lime Green? Does look like some of the Unica pieces done for Leerdam...and the technique :)
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My pc gets all upset if I click on strange links, so I don't ever do it.
It probably wouldn't cope with your new, fancy ones anyway.
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Its green not teal and def not Japanese, I read copier did some with grit, this has grit all over, it has a lot of wear on the base. its well made.
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on the leerdam site there is a vase with very similar glass and prunt, they look so similar to me, i do not know if i am allowed to put a link up
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it also says this, my glass bowl has white bits in it.
Copier also pioneered the use of Graniver, a brightly coloured semi-porous type of glass with sand added to the batch which was mainly used for making cactus and flower pots. He also made extensive use of Tin crackle, a process in which tin chloride was fused onto the hot glass before blowing it out further. The result is a decorative matt white cracked surface.
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Links to sites are welcome. :)
(I do think this has quality - it is better that the galleon-engraved stuff and much better than Partylite). It is easier to see with your better pics. :)
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here is the link to the site i was saying about the vase is about half way down the page. I would like to know what you think, their photo is worse than mine.
http://www.theglassmuseum.com/leerdam.htm
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Looks like a photo of an old black and white pic. ;D
Much worse than yours! But I can see the similarities. :)
Can't quite make out the logo - but what little I can see, (a bar across the middle, like the bit between the towers) fits.
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I will look again i couldn't see anything in the prunt, it just looks so similar the shape of the prunt.
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;D I've been staring at it for so long, it is starting to look like faces.
But I do think I can see a sort of sideways on T-shape. ;D
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John (glassobsessed) had a copy of the book "The Complete Copier", so hopefully he'll be along with more information.
I see faces too, Sue. Isn't it more of a roundel than a prunt? It looks like a shield in a roundel in Cazza's picture, to me anyway.
Are the mods able to amend the title of the thread to Copier? I spent quite a while trying to find Covier glass 😹
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Spot on, some similar vases with that bubbly almost gritty effect in the book, most don't have a prunt, they are called Heralver. Andries Copier design from the 1930s, made at Leerdam.
Another with prunt here: https://wavemaker.venduehuis.com/auction_lot/86313-een-groen-glazen-leerdam-heralver-vaas#lot
Lots to see if you put "leerdam heralver" into google.
John
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Thank you so much, i knew it was by Copier just could not find anything like it..
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Well done Cazza! Just to finish it off, here is the origin of the elusive image
https://www.heraldry-wiki.com/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Leerdam
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Brilliant. That is obviously absolutely correct. ;D