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Title: Mtarfa Goblet with white label - for reference
Post by: catshome on January 20, 2020, 12:49:27 PM
Adding these pictures for reference purposes.  I think this might be an early label?  Happy for it to be added to the label gallery.

The clear glass has a distinctive green tint - like bottle glass.  Sharp, chunky remains of pontil.  Sides of glass are approx. 6mm thick.  A shade under 14cm high x 6cm diameter.  Weighs 400g.  Appears green out of the light, but golden amber when help up to sunlight, and has an iridescent comet-y trail similar to some Mdina pieces.

20thCenturyGlass website describes similar pieces as "Sandy glass".

Any ideas about a possible date for this label?
Title: Re: Mtarfa Goblet with white label - for reference
Post by: catshome on January 20, 2020, 12:50:34 PM
more pics
Title: Re: Mtarfa Goblet with white label - for reference
Post by: glassobsessed on January 20, 2020, 01:33:33 PM
This pair have a slightly different shape, also with those same labels and chunky too. The Mdina influence is more obvious here. Not sure of date but guessing early 1980s, Sue might have a better idea.

John
Title: Re: Mtarfa Goblet with white label - for reference
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 20, 2020, 06:15:05 PM
I was quite keen on what I call the stuff with splodgy greenish bits - it's similar to methods used at Mdina, but cased more heavily and possibly at a different temperature, so what would have been yellow goes a bit green because of reacting. Sometimes, it is found with bits of dilute cobalt blue though it too.
I do believe the "greenish splodgy" is early Mtarfa. (It does come in "greenish swirly" too.) It predates the weird coiled neck bottles and strange gate-style type sculptures, and is definitely before Mtarfa got a bit more sophisticated and started coming up with their own original designs.
Title: Re: Mtarfa Goblet with white label - for reference
Post by: essi on January 20, 2020, 08:53:33 PM
Not sure if this is of much help, I had this label posting on 31st Jan 2015. I have still not learned how to link old messages to new ones.
Tim

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Mod: Linking between threads ...

- Locate the thread;
- highlight the thread title;
- right click;
- select "copy link location" (or similar);
- return to the new thread and paste the copied link.
- add some wording ... something like this ...

Tim's thread from 31/12/2015 - Mtarfa label ...
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,59103.msg334373.html#msg334373
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Title: Re: Mtarfa Goblet with white label - for reference
Post by: catshome on January 21, 2020, 06:48:04 PM
I wish I'd seen your thread, Tim, I usually search but not this time.  Maybe the threads could be linked by mods.
Title: Re: Mtarfa Goblet with white label - for reference
Post by: essi on January 21, 2020, 10:54:07 PM
Thanks for the help mods.
Cat, congratulations on your thousandth post.
Tim
Title: Re: Mtarfa Goblet with white label - for reference
Post by: KevinH on January 21, 2020, 11:05:07 PM
Yes, congrats to Cat - for being the 44= most chatty member!  8)
Title: Re: Mtarfa Goblet with white label - for reference
Post by: catshome on January 22, 2020, 12:05:54 AM
Awe shucks guys 😳