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Title: Mottled clear and brown candlestick with double ball knop stem. ID = Hortensja
Post by: catshome on January 20, 2020, 02:48:08 PM

Approx. 10.5cm high x 8.5cm rim and base diameter, weight 146g.

Mottled brown with greenish cream opaline patches.  The whole thing glows as though on fire when help up to the sun.  Looks rough but is smooth to the touch inside and out.

I wondered if it might be related to the Mtarfa piece I posted for reference in link below,  but it's much thinner/finer.

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,69191.msg385486/boardseen.html#new.

It also reminds me of the still unidentified "eye bowl" on this link

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,7011.0.html

Title: Re: Mottled clear and brown candlestick with double ball knop stem
Post by: catshome on January 20, 2020, 02:58:14 PM

adding a picture of the three pieces together

Title: Re: Mottled clear and brown candlestick with double ball knop stem
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 20, 2020, 03:03:31 PM

Hortensja. Poland. A design which was only made to order in the '80s. The surface is decorated with silver salts. It's a modern take on an older design with a complicated name I cannot remember off hand... Tadious.......?
It comes in a blue colour too.  :)

More info. in this thread.

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,38748.0.html
I'll keep digging - there is another longer thread somewhere, with more, I think.

Title: Re: Mottled clear and brown candlestick with double ball knop stem
Post by: glassobsessed on January 20, 2020, 04:11:22 PM

By happy coincidence a recent purchase.

Title: Re: Mottled clear and brown candlestick with double ball knop stem
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 20, 2020, 04:19:32 PM

Thanks, John. That saves me trying to dig my pic of one of those out from somewhere. (Mine does have the plastic label still attached.)
It's sitting beside the candleholder like Cat's, I got from you.  ;D

Title: Re: Mottled clear and brown candlestick with double ball knop stem
Post by: catshome on January 20, 2020, 07:03:48 PM

Yes, thanks to Sue and John.  Appears to be Mimosa glass by Hortensja Poland.

More info here about this type of glass

https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/234963-mimosa-glass-vase

https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/185191-some-more-mimosa-glass-from-poland

Looking for more information, I came across this article about Pandora glass from Knizek.

https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/185012-knizek-pandora-glass-by-maximilian-bou

It states that pieces were made using a colourless glass base. 

The mimosa pieces I've seen so far, all have coloured glass bases.  Did they also use a colourless glass base?  Is there a way to distinguish between mimosa and pandora pieces?

Even more confusing..... that last article attributes mimosa pieces to Tadeusz Wrzesniak Glassworks.

Labelled example below is Sue's image.

Title: Re: Mottled clear and brown candlestick with double ball knop stem. ID = Hortensja
Post by: glassobsessed on January 21, 2020, 09:57:09 PM

If you look at the knop on your candlestick photo you can just see that the base glass is clear. The clear glass thing does break down with the blue stuff...

The Knizek Pandora items are very much in the nouveau style, more artisan. I suspect that the vase on the far right does not belong in that group, the cut rim and simpler shape and to some extent the more 'granular' finish look more like our Hortensja items.

Title: Re: Mottled clear and brown candlestick with double ball knop stem. ID = Hortensja
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 22, 2020, 03:20:51 PM

 :) I agree.
The older items, the ones the Mimosa are a tribute to, are more thickly blown and a bit more "organic" looking than the Mimosa, which is slightly more refined, detailed and delicate.
I'm sure there is a long thread about this somewhere, well illustrated, but I cannot find it. ::)